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Old 02-27-2013, 12:45 PM  
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Old 09-18-2013, 11:47 AM   #4216
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2011 did suck.

It was worse than Singletary years.

Smith wasn't the only guy on the field. It was a compound issue of the new system, WRs falling out of the lineup, too cute play-calling, running game could not get tough yards.

2011 49ers
82 rush attempts in the redzone AVG 2.1

2012 Falcons
81 rush attempts in the redzone AVG 2.2

Michael Turner and Jacquizz Rodgers were somehow better that Gore and the 49ers.

49ers were over 20% in the percentage of passes in the redzone that ended up as TDs in 2009 and 2010.

The drop to 15% in 2011 goes beyond Alex Smith.
I feel certain that it was more a product of Harbaugh/Roman being content with taking lots of FGs... being remarkably conservative.. because they knew that our D and STs would chip away and stay on top of teams. They didn't want to leave the RZ without points... so 3 was acceptable, and this showed in their playcalling.
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Old 09-18-2013, 11:47 AM   #4217
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So, you would have been happier had the Chiefs drafted Bray at 1.1? They would have been "trying" and the first round statistic would seemingly improve his likelihood to succeed.
You can't seriously be that dense.
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Old 09-18-2013, 11:47 AM   #4218
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So far so good, yes. I'd like a bit larger sample size than 2 games including one against the worst team in football before I waive the checkered flag.
would be far more alarming if it wasn't that good considering who you played. besides. Can only really judge on how many chances you had.

1000 percent, is 1000 percent.

Obviously not gonna stand up, but if the chiefs can ever get Jamaal going, that percentage is going to be good regardless.
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Old 09-18-2013, 11:48 AM   #4219
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You can't seriously be that dense.
Oh, someone ACTUALLY SAID they would of been happy had that scenario had happened. NO LIE.
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Old 09-18-2013, 11:48 AM   #4220
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So far so good, yes. I'd like a bit larger sample size than 2 games including one against the worst team in football before I waive the checkered flag.
Well, of course, but it's mid-September, so 2 games is all you get in the here and now.

You could look at 2012, of course, which was better than 2011, for a larger sample size.

Everyone knows the Niners offense was anemic in 2011, and it was ST and defense that carried the load.
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Old 09-18-2013, 11:49 AM   #4221
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I feel certain that it was more a product of Harbaugh/Roman being content with taking lots of FGs... being remarkably conservative.. because they knew that our D and STs would chip away and stay on top of teams. They didn't want to leave the RZ without points... so 3 was acceptable, and this showed in their playcalling.
Is this what is known as an "Alexcuse", 9er fans?
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I feel certain that it was more a product of Harbaugh/Roman being content with taking lots of FGs... being remarkably conservative.. because they knew that our D and STs would chip away and stay on top of teams. They didn't want to leave the RZ without points... so 3 was acceptable, and this showed in their playcalling.
The lockout played a LARGE part in that. a revolving door at wide receiver, Vernon Davis' admitted frustration with the offense, Delanie Walkers drops, (remember Detroit) Jims failure to properly challenge a call where the ref said Crabtree had stepped out of bounds, (he actually didn't, and caught the td, but we were penalized leading to a fg.

Lots of things like that.
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Is this what is known as an "Alexcuse", 9er fans?
Sure. But, in fairness. The playcalling in the redzone, especially early in the season, was run run run kick.

Hell, in the Dallas game, on a fg attempt, they got a roughing the kicker penalty that would of given the 49ers a first down, jim decided to take the points anyway.

There was a failure of execution that undoubtedly is on Alex Smith, but he was far from the only factor.
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Old 09-18-2013, 11:52 AM   #4224
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Is this what is known as an "Alexcuse", 9er fans?
Yep. Get used to it.
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I feel certain that it was more a product of Harbaugh/Roman being content with taking lots of FGs... being remarkably conservative.. because they knew that our D and STs would chip away and stay on top of teams. They didn't want to leave the RZ without points... so 3 was acceptable, and this showed in their playcalling.
That is the most likely solution.
They only had 61 Passes to those 82 Runs.

They were winning games and were OK with only adding a FG cause the D wasn't likely to give up much if any additional points.
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Is this what is known as an "Alexcuse", 9er fans?
You don't think playcalling can have a huge effect on a team's TD/FG ratio in the RZ? Anyone watching could see the run, run, pass (but throw it away if you don't love the first target) was our SOP in the RZ. Hell, our OC was quoted saying that it's always better to take sacks or throwaways vs forcing a pass.


If that's an excuse? Ooookay then.
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Old 09-18-2013, 11:53 AM   #4227
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The lockout played a LARGE part in that. a revolving door at wide receiver, Vernon Davis' admitted frustration with the offense, Delanie Walkers drops, (remember Detroit) Jims failure to properly challenge a call where the ref said Crabtree had stepped out of bounds, (he actually didn't, and caught the td, but we were penalized leading to a fg.

Lots of things like that.
Ah, see this is good. This is what I see a lot of Alice apologist using later in the year when poo pooing away loses.
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You can't seriously be that dense.
What do you mean? Would those conditions NOT have satisfied your request(s)? Or, did you specifically want Geno at 1.1?
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Oh, someone ACTUALLY SAID they would of been happy had that scenario had happened. NO LIE.
Oh god...

Best available, based on the system, etc; obviously.

It's one thing if every GM passes on a player once or twice, and I don't know where Bray was projected to go (if at all), but.... do we really have to explain this?
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Is this what is known as an "Alexcuse", 9er fans?
Tom Brady sucked in 2008. Not even a single TD.

But he was out in IR for 15 games?

Bradexcuse.
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