**** OFFICIAL 2013-2014 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread, Part 2 ****

[ArrowheadHawk]

#10 (23-8,14-4)

Players

Spoiler!

Returning Players
1 Naadir Tharpe Guard 5-11 170 Jr.
3 Andrew White III Guard 6-6 210 So.
4 Justin Wesley Forward 6-9 220 RS Sr.
10 Evan Manning Guard 6-3 170 So.
11 Tyler Self Guard 6-2 165 So.
20 Niko Roberts Guard 5-11 175 Sr.
21 Christian Garrett Guard 6-3 185 Jr.
31 Jamari Traylor Forward 6-8 220 RS So.
33 Landen Lucas Forward 6-10 240 RS Fr.
34 Perry Ellis Forward 6-8 225 So.

Incoming Class
SF ***** Wayne Selden
C ***** Joel Embiid
PG **** Conner Frankamp
SF **** Brannen Greene
PG **** Frank Mason
SF ***** Andrew Wiggins

Transfers
Hunter Mickelson
Tarik Black

Non Conference

Spoiler!

11/8/2013 Louisiana Monroe Lawrence, Kan. W(80-63) (1-0)
11/12/2013 Duke Chicago, Ill. W(94-83) (2-0)
11/19/2013 Iona Lawrence, Kan. W(86-66) (3-0)
11/22/2013 Towson W(88-58) (4-0)
11/28/2013 Wake Forest Paradise Island, Bahamas W(87-78) (5-0)
11/29/2013 Villanova Paradise Island, Bahamas L(59-63) (5-1)
11/30/2013 UTEP Paradise Island, Bahamas W(67-63) (6-1)
12/7/2013 Colorado Boulder, Colo. L(72-75) (6-2)
12/10/2013 Florida Gainesville, Fla. L(61-67) (6-3)
12/14/2013 New Mexico Kansas City, Mo. W(80-63)(7-3)
12/21/2013 Georgetown Lawrence, Kan. W(86-64)(8-3)
12/30/2013 Toledo Lawrence, Kan. W(93-83)(9-3)
1/5/2014 San Diego State Lawrence, Kan. L(57-61)(9-4)

Conference

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1/8/2014 Oklahoma Norman, Okla. W(90-83)(10-4,1-0)
1/11/2014 Kansas State Lawrence, Kan. W(86-60)(11-4,2-0)
1/13/2014 Iowa State Ames, Iowa W(77-70)(12-4,3-0)
1/18/2014 Oklahoma State Lawrence, Kan. W(80-78)(13-4,4-0)
1/20/2014 Baylor Lawrence, Kan. W(78-68)(14-4,5-0)
1/25/2014 TCU Fort Worth, Texas W(91-69)(15-4,6-0)
1/29/2014 Iowa State Lawrence, Kan. W(92-81)(16-4,7-0)
2/1/2014 Texas Austin, Texas L(69-81)(16-5,7-1)
2/4/2014 Baylor Waco, Texas W(69-52)(17-5,8-1)
2/8/2014 West Virginia Lawrence, Kan. W(83-69)(18-5,9-1)
2/10/2014 Kansas State Manhattan, Kan. L(82-85)(18-6,9-2)
2/15/2014 TCU Lawrence, Kan. W(95-65)(19-6,10-2)
2/18/2014 Texas Tech Lubbock, Texas W(64-63)(20-6,11-2)
2/22/2014 Texas Lawrence, Kan. W(85-54)(21-6,12-2)
2/24/2014 Oklahoma Lawrence, Kan. W(83-75)(22-6,13-2)
3/1/2014 Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. L(65-72)(22-7,13-3)
3/5/2014 Texas Tech Lawrence, Kan. W(82-57)(23-7,14-3)
3/8/2014 West Virginia Morgantown, W. Va. L(86-92)(23-8,14-4)

Big 12 Championship
3/13/2014 Texas Tech/Oklahoma State Kansas City, Mo. 2PM ESPN2

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by O.city

I thinks it's a cop out to use te whole ultra competitive talk. There's a difference in taking losing terribly and losing your shit like that.

I'm not all about losing gracefully, I don't mind seeing that fire, but you've gotta have some discretion

How is it a cop out? It's what he is. A terrible loser. And that isn't a bad thing to be as a high level athlete (unless, of course, this happens).

[KC_Connection]

Doug Gottlieb ‏@GottliebShow 1m
Jeff Orr to a #TexasTech friend of mine via text "I kinda let my mouth say something I shouldn't have,I feel bad" #MarcusSmart






Hmm, yeah, wonder what that could have been.

[tk13]

I don't doubt that one bit. I'm sure whatever the guy said was probably terrible. He's not the good guy, there may not be a good guy.

Do remember Gottlieb played for Oklahoma State. He is not going to have an unbiased view of this.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

How is it a cop out? It's what he is. A terrible loser. And that isn't a bad thing to be as a high level athlete (unless, of course, this happens).

It's a cop out because it takes issue away from the whole situation and makes it less negative. People can say"he's just competitive" instead of "he's not very mature" and it makes te situation less fragile.


As much as some don't necessarily want to believe it, as evidenced by his actions of late, Smart isn't showing to be a mature player when things don't go his way. That's not necessarily a bad thing when it makes players elevate their game to higher levels, but when it causes reactions and results like we are seeing from him, it is.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

@GottliebShow: "wasn't vulgar or the N Word" another text from Orr - #MarcusSmart

I knew he didn't say anything like that. He would've acted differently.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Hmm, yeah, wonder what that could have been.

We still don't know what he said or if he called him a racial slur. He might very well have. He might have just said something stupid that was unrelated to race. We just don't know.

I just have a problem with the rush to judgment before all the facts come out.

The only thing we know for certain is that Smart never should have gone after the fan, no matter what he said.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by O.city

It's a cop out because it takes issue away from the whole situation and makes it less negative. People can say"he's just competitive" instead of "he's not very mature" and it makes te situation less fragile.

Pretty sure you can safely say both is the case.

[RealSNR]

Probably told him to drink a bowl of antifreeze

[O.city]

So if it wast racial or vulgar and smart reacted that way, that changes the perception a littl no?

[TomBarndtsTwin]

"Stay down and burn in an AIDS tree fire!" ??

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Silock

We still don't know what he said or if he called him a racial slur. He might very well have. He might have just said something stupid that was unrelated to race. We just don't know.

I just have a problem with the rush to judgment before all the facts come out.

I think we're definitely getting a better picture of it in any case.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by O.city

So if it wast racial or vulgar and smart reacted that way, that changes the perception a littl no?

If it wasn't, sure. You honestly believe that guy, though?

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Doug Gottlieb ‏@GottliebShow 1m
Jeff Orr to a #TexasTech friend of mine via text "I kinda let my mouth say something I shouldn't have,I feel bad" #MarcusSmart






Hmm, yeah, wonder what that could have been.

lol, Gottlieb. What a snitch

[O.city]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

If it wasn't, sure. You honestly believe that guy, though?

So now were gonna cherry pick his quotes to fit a narrative?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by O.city

So now were gonna cherry pick his quotes to fit a narrative?

You're just being intentionally obtuse at this point. What exactly would he have to feel bad about if he was an innocent party here? He's the guy who said he ran his mouth and said something he shouldn't have.