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Old 08-14-2012, 04:21 PM  
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The true value of Tyson Jackson - Bill Williamson
The true value of Tyson Jackson
August, 14, 2012

By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com

ST. JOSEPH, Mo. -- Tyson Jackson is maligned and probably will always be as long as he is with the Kansas City Chiefs. It goes with the territory of being a No. 3 overall pick.

Folks expect spectacular dividends from players drafted that high, but Jackson will never be spectacular. But he has been productive and is a big reason why the team's defense is expected to be one of the better units in the league.

The Chiefs value Jackson as one of the best run-stopping 3-4 defensive ends in the NFL. Yes, No. 3 picks should get sacks, but that’s not Jackson’s game. He has two sacks in three NFL seasons. The Chiefs will continue to get the brunt of their pass-rush from star Tamba Hali and youngster Justin Houston.

It's Jackson's job to halt the run and he does it well. According to Pro Football Focus, Jackson had 38 defensive stops (characterized as tackles for an offensive failure on the play) in 2011. That total led the NFL in run stop frequency.

Kansas City defensive end Glenn Dorsey, the No. 5 overall pick in 2008, added 32. According to Pro Football Focus, Jackson and Dorsey's totals were the highest in the NFL by 3-4 ends.

Like Jackson, Dorsey has been criticized for a being of high-pick bust. But these statistics and the Chiefs' improvement on the defensive front in the past year show these former high picks are making their presence felt.
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:50 PM   #31
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:51 PM   #32
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"According to Pro Football Focus, Jackson had 38 defensive stops (characterized as tackles for an offensive failure on the play) in 2011. That total led the NFL in run stop frequency.


Hmmm....that, I did not know.
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How is it possible to have the two best run-stopping DEs in the nfl, yet have the 26th ranked run defense?
Well, we were 14th in YPC.

We gave up a lot of rushing attempts because our offense sucks.

We done here?
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Well, we were 14th in YPC.

We gave up a lot of rushing attempts because our offense sucks.

We done here?
And scene.
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I wanted Brian Orakpo. Which would have been a heck of a pick. Of course, my reasoning was that I didn't see Tamba succeeding as a OLB.
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Well, we were 14th in YPC.

We gave up a lot of rushing attempts because our offense sucks.

We done here?
I agree with Wendler twice in as many posts? I'm starting to feel dirty.
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How is it possible to have the two best run-stopping DEs in the nfl, yet have the 26th ranked run defense?
B/c we trailed our opponents last year, A LOT. So they ran the ball, a lot.

Not only that, but NT did hurt us and losing Berry hurt our run defense a lot.

Add in that we use a 2-4-5 on third and long with pass rush specialists like Allen Bailey and Wallace Gilberry who aren't very good run defenders to begin with, and have them ignore the run and focus on rushing the passer, it can lead to big runs. This is why I laugh at guys who think Allen Bailey is our replacement for Dorsey. He isn't a good enough run defender for this defense.
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Well, we were 14th in YPC.

We gave up a lot of rushing attempts because our offense sucks.

We done here?
Yeah, good explanation. I just don't think that TJ and Dorsey's run stopping stats translate into them being a force to be reckoned with. You never hear any of the opposing RBs talking about how tough it is to try to run against those guys.
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Yeah, good explanation. I just don't think that TJ and Dorsey's run stopping stats translate into them being a force to be reckoned with.
Why don't you go watch that game against the Bears again.

Those guys are a force against the run, and the reason our LBs wreak so much havoc.
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