Life Student Stands up to Crappy Teacher - Page 5

Bump · 05-10-2013, 11:52 AM

I like this kid.

I already know the reaction it's gonna get here but oh well...

Just Passin' By · 05-10-2013, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I asked you those questions not to insult your intelligence, i asked you so i can find out how in touch you are with today's teen. You seem to think respect is simply given by kids these days, when it simply isn't the case. The world isn't black and white anymore and in order to get through to some of these kids, you can't walk into a classroom acting like a dickhead, as they will simply treat you the same way.

Simply being an old guy in a position of supposed power doesn't mean shit anymore. You may not like it or want to hear it, but it's the truth. If you want these teens to listen and respect you, then you earn it. That doesn't mean you let them walk all over you. It means that you are tough but fair, but just as importantly, patient and understanding.

The fact that you can't recognize that says that you really haven't had much interaction with recent generations of teens.

This is a different age. Your 1960's republican rhetoric isn't applicable anymore. The world changes, generations change over circumstances out of our control.

Im not validating the kid's actions in the video, however i am validating what he said.

If that kid were in my school, my job woulda been to escort him out and have his parent come pick him up. But that doesn't make what he said any less true.

I taught a couple of classes in the past, as well as coaching numerous sports, my brother currently teaches in both normal and special needs environments, he and I have had discussions on this subject time and again, and neither of us buy any of what you're selling.

And it's not about "republican rhetoric", either, since he's a pretty extreme liberal on most social issues.

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-10-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

And it's not about "republican rhetoric", either, since he's a pretty extreme liberal on most social issues.

I'm also in my 30's still (barely!) i wasn't even born in the 60's but I don't think the truth really matters to this guy

**Donger** · 05-10-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I asked you those questions not to insult your intelligence, i asked you so i can find out how in touch you are with today's teen. You seem to think respect is simply given by kids these days, when it simply isn't the case. The world isn't black and white anymore and in order to get through to some of these kids, you can't walk into a classroom acting like a dickhead, as they will simply treat you the same way.

Simply being an old guy in a position of supposed power doesn't mean shit anymore. You may not like it or want to hear it, but it's the truth. If you want these teens to listen and respect you, then you earn it. That doesn't mean you let them walk all over you. It means that you are tough but fair, but just as importantly, patient and understanding.

The fact that you can't recognize that says that you really haven't had much interaction with recent generations of teens.

This is a different age. Your 1960's republican rhetoric isn't applicable anymore. The world changes, generations change over circumstances out of our control.

Im not validating the kid's actions in the video, however i am validating what he said.

If that kid were in my school, my job woulda been to escort him out and have his parent come pick him up. But that doesn't make what he said any less true.

Oh stop it. They were smart ass little pricks in classrooms in the 80s.

They were smart ass little pricks in classrooms in the 60s.

There are smart ass little pricks in classrooms now.

There will be smart ass little pricks in classrooms in the 2020s.

This generation is no different. I realize that you might like to think it is, but it isn't.

Omaha · 05-10-2013, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump

attitudes like yours is part of the problem.

Not everybody is easily manipulated and able to be completely controlled like you are.

Although I wholeheartedly agree with the kid's point, I kinda agree that interrupting class with a tantrum is likely not the best way to communicate it. I might change my mind if I knew what led up to the tantrum.

Chazno · 05-10-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

you couldn't be more wrong

the manner with which he said what he said ABSOLUTELY devalues it.

If he wouldve had a meeting with teachers and admin or written a letter or even had a 1-1 with the teacher, it wouldve had more value.

Instead it seemed to be about his ego ("you're welcome" & "i could teach you") rather than the content of the message.

If you think that style of interaction isn't devalued, youre a ****ing idiot like him.

Ironic post is Ironic.

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-10-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Omaha

Although I wholeheartedly agree with the kid's point, I kinda agree that interrupting class with a tantrum is likely not the best way to communicate it. I might change my mind if I knew what lead up to the tantrum.

Exactly. From the fairly calm demeanor of the teacher, I'm going to guess she didn't 'lose it' but without seeing the whole thing , who knows...

From the reaction of the students at the end of the video (giggling, calling him a baby...,saying his name to get him to leave...) I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess he is in the wrong.

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-10-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chazno

Ironic post is Ironic.

except we are not in a classroom, and this is a casual, shit talking type of internet forum

I admit, wholeheartedly, that my behavior is different in professional type settings..

I have enough control in myself to act appropriately given context/circumstance...

and to know the difference

Unlike you & this douche in the video.

Demonpenz · 05-10-2013, 01:54 PM

guy should get a teaching degree then he can show her how it's done.

**J Diddy** · 05-10-2013, 01:54 PM

I've seen this video a million times and each time I ask the same question: You get a 2 minute snap shot of a teenage kids perceived injustice. You don't know the context, the history of the kid or the teacher, yet you choose to champion a teenage kid who knows nothing of the world because he sprinkles some truth in there.

Newsflash: That is how teenagers argue. Their problem is not that they can't see the truth, just that they don't know what to do with it when it's in their grasp.

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-10-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

I've seen this video a million times and each time I ask the same question: You get a 2 minute snap shot of a teenage kids perceived injustice. You don't know the context, the history of the kid or the teacher, yet you choose to champion a teenage kid who knows nothing of the world because he sprinkles some truth in there.

Newsflash: That is how teenagers argue. Their problem is not that they can't see the truth, just that they don't know what to do with it when it's in their grasp.

no way man, youre way out of touch with teens

LOL

(tardhint: ****ing exactly spot on 100% A+ post)

ModSocks · 05-10-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

you have serious reading comprehension issues. I never said that what the kid said 'wasn't true' or was 'less true' , go back and re-read what I wrote.

You are either dishonest or a ****ing idiot.

All I ever said was he deserved to be kicked out for being a disruptive jack hole, which you apparently agree with.

The simple fact that you can't stop throwing around insults and have an adult conversation suggests maybe i should question your intelligence. I have yet to insult you one time, yet you continue.

If you have no issue with what was said, then why bother attacking those who agreed with his rant?

ModSocks · 05-10-2013, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

I've seen this video a million times and each time I ask the same question: You get a 2 minute snap shot of a teenage kids perceived injustice. You don't know the context, the history of the kid or the teacher, yet you choose to champion a teenage kid who knows nothing of the world because he sprinkles some truth in there.

Newsflash: That is how teenagers argue. Their problem is not that they can't see the truth, just that they don't know what to do with it when it's in their grasp.

How he went about it and what he said are two different arguments.

I think most of us can agree that he didn't go about it in a mature way. That doesn't mean his statement doesn't have truth to it, which afterall, is what this thread is about.

ModSocks · 05-10-2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Oh stop it. They were smart ass little pricks in classrooms in the 80s.

They were smart ass little pricks in classrooms in the 60s.

There are smart ass little pricks in classrooms now.

There will be smart ass little pricks in classrooms in the 2020s.

This generation is no different. I realize that you might like to think it is, but it isn't.

You're the most detached poster on the forum, so your stance on this doesn't surprise me one bit.

ModSocks · 05-10-2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I taught a couple of classes in the past, as well as coaching numerous sports, my brother currently teaches in both normal and special needs environments, he and I have had discussions on this subject time and again, and neither of us buy any of what you're selling.

And it's not about "republican rhetoric", either, since he's a pretty extreme liberal on most social issues.

That's fine. What is it exactly that you don't buy?

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-10-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

If you have no issue with what was said, then why bother attacking those who agreed with his rant?

Are you seriously too ****ing dense to understand the difference between understanding that PERHAPS there is truth in what he said...and totally disagreeing with how he went about it? Ive said it to you 3 times now, yet you still fail.

Also not you or anyone else knows if the teacher was using too many 'packets' or not, or what led up to the 'blow up.'

There is almost zero justification for this kind of disruption in a class setting, especially by an 18 year old.

The fact you repeatedly fail to understand this is utterly mind boggling, considering you claim to work with kids.

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