The Evolution of the Planet

[BIG_DADDY]

I think to understand the nature of the problem that exists here today it is important to reflect on how we arrived here. For those that don’t know, ChiefsPlanet was created to get around the vast restrictions placed on posters in KC Star. It was a huge success right off the bat and we were rolling. IMO those first months we ended up with a lot of really great posters and only a couple bad ones. As time went on CP has attracted more and more people who love not having restrictions and unlimited subjects to discuss which was great other than the fact that that many thought those threads were polluting the forum with people arguing all the time over subjects that didn’t even involve football. I posted a poll asking the membership if they wanted another forum for off topics and it passed by a landslide and the people who run this BB were gracious enough to create it and DC was born.

That has worked for a long time now with this almost no holds barred format. Once again this type of forum has been attractive to people who love the open debate that can take place here but unfortunately over many years it has attracted more and more trolls who like using the structure here to do nothing more than try to get under posters skin and will do anything in order to do that. It’s also allowed posters like frazod to thrive here being the poster child of bad psychology. Talk about no boundaries with a strong desire to bust in others and dump. This has attracted more in the like, can anyone say KCN? The trolls have grown as well in this forum in a kind of perfect storm way. What we have today is a forum saturated with trolls and posters with the psychology of a 13 year old psychopathic girl on her first period. IMO this is costing us many potential good posters who would make this a better place to come to and has also seen us lose many quality long term posters. To complicate matters the moderators that reside here are fine with posters posting anything they want about you and your family members short of a racist remark heaven forbid just as long as you don’t do it to them which is now creating two different cultures that exist within the planet. If they think that it is hostile now they haven’t seen anything yet should this persist.

IMO at this point nothing short of a cleansing designed to rid the planet of trolls and bloody vaginas that have no control is exactly what this place needs to regain its former greatness. There was a time when I posted a thread about a family member and their battle with cancer and asked for prayers and support. Today there is no chance of me doing something like that here as I have no desire to see somebody post the nastiest thing they can think of at that point. For the old timers it should be easy to see the huge difference in where we were and where we are now. My 2 cents.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Because there's a shortage of naked CP women on the internets...

Fixed your post.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

I get that dude. The reason I have posted so much less is simply because I have very little time. It is far less enjoyable being troll central however. When I get more time again someday maybe I will just buy it and do whatever the **** I want. j/k

Actually that would make a good thread. If CP was yours tomorrow, what would you do?

So what you're saying is, you enjoyed ChiefsPlanet more when you were around a lot and got to know people a little better?

Funny how that works.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Race Card native

I could see how you would think that. I'm an abrasive person IRL too. People either love me or they hate me. I'm also fairly aggressive so if someone comes at me then they're going to get both barrels.

Yea, you are a real terrorist in your own mind. Actually you probably exemplify the new troll CP better than anyone.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It didn't prove to be true, and it was ignored then because it's a ****ing ridiculous assertion.

There's a huge difference between a trend and undeniable fact, and the folks that relied on this argument fail to realize that.

Of course you didn't prove the trend to be true. You couldn't do that. It was only ridiculous to you because of your position then.
Trends are an important factor to look at and evaluate into any decision that is made. There is a long standing trend with QBs like Sanchez that fit several areas of concern. He is a bust and has continued to add to the trend of USC QBs and QBs with short term starting.

[blaise]

I've been posting for a few years. Seems the same as it ever was to me.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by DaFace

So what you're saying is, you enjoyed ChiefsPlanet more when you were around a lot and got to know people a little better?

Funny how that works.

No what I said is actually what I meant. Many people notice the difference, let's not pretend it doesn't exist. Just my 2 cents

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The same could have been said for Cassel. Both sides were wrong.

How is "Cassel played well in N.E., so give him a chance instead of wasting a pick on Sanchez." wrong? That's like saying it takes two to tango because someone defends themself from a person who breaks into their house.

I'm not talking about me, by the way. I gave as good as I got, and I've got no problem with that. I'm talking about so many others who got piled on by that crew.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by Race Card native

I could see how you would think that. I'm an abrasive person IRL too. People either love me or they hate me. I'm also fairly aggressive so if someone comes at me then they're going to get both barrels.

You obviously don't understand diagnosis or treatment either. My point is you need some pussy so that frown will turn upside down. Tell your wife to quit studying so much or learn to do two things at once.

I suspect if you'd get laid that a lot of your anger would dissipate. Clay's seemed to.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Eh, there's probably some truth to that, but I lurked for two years between 2003-2005 because I was afraid of being blasted for being a n00b around here. People were assholes back then just as much as they are now.

I did the same.

[KC native]

Originally Posted by Katipan

It would be beneficial to CP if you could display more of your loveable qualities.

It would be beneficial to your posting to just ignore me if you don't like me.

[Katipan]

Originally Posted by Coach

Well, it would definitely be beneficial to CP if you could display more of your loveable assets.

Just sayin'.

Wouldn't you rather have a face to face conversation with me someday? You think you could look Rain Man in the face if you knew what his dick looked like?

[Time's Yours]

Originally Posted by Rudy is a Troll

The shift to a critical board started in 2009 and was led with much hostility from Dane, Hamas, etc. People alike (sick of losing) and people opposed (hopeful fans) adapted this posting style even if they weren't nearly as skilled to do so. I think guys like OTWP need to take some accountability into their role in this development.

This is my view as well. It started a "you're with us or you're against us" mentality.

As has been mentioned, the Star and other articles never get posted anymore for healthy football discussion.

Everything seems to be are you in camp A or camp B? Do you love Alex or want him gone? Same for McCluster, Bowe, Clausen, Sanchez, Geno, Hali temporarily, Fisher and all the others.

Every single topic/player is treated as pick a side and fight to the death. So many threads divide CP into two opposing factions with no room for moderate opinions.

For example, my take on Alex Smith right now would probably be "not all 32 teams can have a top 5 qb, and nobody has a crystal ball to say he can't get hot and do well enough to win a superbowl, so let's enjoy the ride, he's working out pretty well so far." This would put me in the "true fan can't endure a rookie qb growing pains" camp and I'd be sent over to the "pro Alex Smith" group because it has to be one or the other, even though I also would have been okay with drafting Geno Smith. It's a tough call and there's no sure right or wrong answer, but that opinion is no longer acceptable.

[Katipan]

Originally Posted by Race Card native

It would be beneficial to your posting to just ignore me if you don't like me.

Maybe if I said it in Spanish?

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

That wasn't ever the problem. Nobody ever said you didn't or couldn't make a case. The problem was that people still didn't believe in Sanchez even though you attempted to sway them. After they proved that they didn't believe, you turned to all the name calling and we are not talking about dumbshit or dumbass. You and others said way worse. You guys went personal.
Then when Sanchez has been proven a bust, the naysayers were proven correct and you get left looking....even worse.

LOL There are still people who think drafting Sanchex was still the right thing to do. At least we tried!

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I don't want to get into a full Sanchez rehash, but the stats were against the pro-Sanchez group. Between the bust rate of 1st round QBs, the struggles of USC QBs and the problems with QBs with so few starts, the numbers were stacked against Sanchez, and those arguments were made time after time.

So, when OTW tries blaming his hostilities of the time on people who were hiding behind NFL job or Pioli comments, OTW is just being full of shit.

And at the time of all this arguing, what was Sanchez doing?

Going to back-to-back AFCCG's as a rookie and 2nd year player - with a 61% completion percentage and a 3:1 ratio.

So at the time, your arguments were dead wrong. If any of them carried any weight, he wouldn't have been successful his first two years in the league.