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Old 12-10-2011, 06:47 PM  
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Ryan Braun tests positive for PED

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He's facing a 50 game suspension.
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Old 07-23-2013, 10:17 AM   #316
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Yeah he messed up for sure.
Hell, I don't mind the usage. They are all pretty much on it, but it's sad how he got the guy fired. Ridiculous. What a complete scumbag.
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:16 AM   #317
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:39 AM   #318
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Hell, I don't mind the usage. They are all pretty much on it, but it's sad how he got the guy fired. Ridiculous. What a complete scumbag.
Braun actually admitting he was on something does not change the fact the guy still mishandled the sample and should have been fired any way.
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:48 AM   #319
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Braun actually admitting he was on something does not change the fact the guy still mishandled the sample and should have been fired any way.
But here's the thing:

He didn't.

Shyam Das ****ed up that ruling. If you look at what he did and when he did it, the guy that handled the sample really had no other options available to him and he did take every step possible to ensure that the sample was protected.

At the very worst, the chain of custody requirements had some holes in them and/or contingencies that weren't considered. But Laurenzi did his job correctly given the rules at the time.

What people forget about that 3-member arb panel is that 2 votes were cast before the first piece of evidence was entered - one member is a union rep, the other a baseball rep. in Braun's case the MLB rep was Michael Weiner, who has now run screaming from Braun's case, but neglects to mention that he was instrumental in absolving him the first time; he was a guaranteed 'no' vote as the panel's Union rep.

The entire ruling came down to the opinion of one man: Shyam Das. It was a ruling that he got wrong, IMO. And Das promptly made an even more egregious reversal when he overturned Eliezer Alfonso's suspension for a 2nd failed test immediately thereafter on tenuous procedural grounds. Das became a rogue operator and it got him shitcanned as an arbitrator.

Braun's an asshole and Das is an enabler. Laurenzi was just some poor schlub that did his job as best as could be reasonably expected given some very nebulous and incomplete guidelines. And in the end, by my eye, from a chain of custody perspective for trial purposes, Laurenzi did a fine job of protecting the evidence and ensuring it's veracity.

Das got the ruling wrong.
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:51 AM   #320
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:19 PM   #321
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:28 PM   #322
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Hell, I don't mind the usage. They are all pretty much on it, but it's sad how he got the guy fired. Ridiculous. What a complete scumbag.
Agreed, peds are part of sports like it or not.You probably know more about that other part than I do. If the guy mishandled the specimen it seems like he should be accountable. I admit I was wrong about Braun though.
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:20 PM   #323
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:46 PM   #324
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Agreed, peds are part of sports like it or not.You probably know more about that other part than I do. If the guy mishandled the specimen it seems like he should be accountable. I admit I was wrong about Braun though.
The guy didn't mishandle the specimen.
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Yep. I'm just glad he wasn't able to cheat his way to the World Series. Luckily, St. Louis is still the place where Milwaukee's playoff dreams go to ****ing die.
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:01 PM   #326
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WTF? Rogers is a dumbshit. Maybe too many LB hits to the head?
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Yep. I'm just glad he wasn't able to cheat his way to the World Series. Luckily, St. Louis is still the place where Milwaukee's playoff dreams go to ****ing die.
, posted by someone who still has Mark McGuire, Tony Larussa, Lance Berkman, Carlos Beltran....ehhh, the list is just too long
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