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Mr_Tomahawk · 01-14-2014, 08:06 AM

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The KC Chiefs believe they have found their quarterback of the future in Alex Smith. But what about back-ups Chase Daniel and Tyler Bray? Read on for our review of the Kansas City Chiefs 2013 quarterbacks.

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As we review the Kansas City Chiefs position groups in the 2013 season, it makes sense to start with the quarterbacks because everyone loves talking about that position. In Kansas City, it's going to be a big quarterback summer because Alex Smith, who played well last season, has just one year left on his contract. That means Chiefs fans get to spend the offseason talking about quarterback contracts.

Before we review the Chiefs and their quarterbacks,

Alex Smith: 60.6 %, 3,313 yards, 23 TDs, 7 INTs

Chase Daniel: 65.8 %, 248 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

Tyler Bray: N/A

All three quarterbacks are new to the Chiefs as of the 2013 season.

Smith isn't going anywhere, we know that. He's the Chiefs man. The only question with him is whether the Chiefs give him a multi-year deal this season or next.

Daniel didn't exactly shine early on in but he played well in his only extended action this season, Week 17 against the Chargers. He completed 21-of-30 passes for 200 yards, 1 TD and another 59 yards rushing. He has a big contract for a back-up, a reported $10 million over three years, but I suspect he's staying here.

Bray is an interesting case because we know so little about him. His big arm was obvious in training camp and the preseason. He's under contract for cheap as an undrafted free agent. I wonder if the Chiefs would be eyeing other developmental quarterbacks in this draft.

Best game

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Smith's playoff game in Indy (30-of-46, 378 yards, 4 TDs, 0 INTs)

Worst game

Smith's regular season game vs. Indy (16-of-28, 153 yards, 0 TDs, 1 INT)

Best moment

The first half of Smith's playoff game against the Colts. He was straight dominant and made Chiefs fans realize that he can put up a winning performance in the playoffs (besides the part where they lost).

Worst moment

The missed pass to Cyrus Gray. That one will stick.

Injuries

None. This is a BIG one. The Chiefs probably won't be so lucky next year.

Years under contract

Smith (1): $7.5 million in 2014

Daniel (2): $2.35 million in 2014

Bray (2): $495,000 in 2014

Roster changes

Competition for the back-up positions is possible.

Free agency / Draft

The Chiefs will not find a starter in free agency and they are not likely to find a back-up as good as Daniel (at a reasonable price). The Chiefs are more likely to draft a developmental quarterback than anything. Andy Reid comes from the Ron Wolf school of drafting where you select a quarterback every year. That would pit a developmental quarterback against Bray, who was selected last year as an undrafted free agent.

Final grade: B

The Chiefs weren't winning games because of their quarterback. But, hey, they weren't losing games because of him either. That can be enough to have a successful NFL career. The Chiefs feel like they have found the future of their franchise in Smith so that has to count for something. The Chiefs also get a huge bonus for Smith staying healthy all season.

What would you do next year?

In a world where emotions don't matter and GMs are willing to risk their team's future, I would not sign Smith to a long-term contract yet. I would let him wait it out with another good year, knowing I have the exclusive franchise tag available. This is purely a financial move for me. Letting Smith play out this year and then using the franchise tag on him twice would cost roughly $40 million over the next three years. Unless Smith is willing to sign a deal for that number, I would consider not signing him right away. Of course, it may be easier to manage the relationship with a multi-year deal, which the Chiefs are expected to explore this offseason.

Daniel should stay in Kansas City as should Bray. The Chiefs should give serious thought to Bray being the No. 2 quarterback. If he is not ready for that then they need to bring in more competition for him as the No. 3 quarterback.

**chefsos** · 01-15-2014, 01:11 PM

I think they're going to sit tight at QB. Smith and Daniel aren't going anywhere. I also get the feeling, in contrast to the modern "play him right away" NFL, they would love to have Bray sit and learn (and run the scout team) for 2-3 years, old school-style. I mean, they will still do their due diligence and look at QBs, but I think it won't be a priority this year.

Obviously, injuries or other circumstances could wreck that plan.

**The Franchise** · 01-15-2014, 01:13 PM

The only way that they will draft a QB this year is if a team trades for Daniel. Don't see it happening.

**Ragged Robin** · 01-15-2014, 07:39 PM

They should see if Daniel is worth a low round pick. Draft another QB late and let him fight for the #2 spot with Bray.

O.city · 01-15-2014, 08:53 PM

IIRC, Bray is only 21 right now.

They can afford to just let him sit for 2-3 years and see what happens.

Mama Hip Rockets · 01-15-2014, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Whose Daniels?

Who's Whose?

Deberg_1990 · 01-15-2014, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

The KC defense isn't going to get as good as that 49ers defense was in one offseason.

Plenty of teams have turned around defenses or offenses in 1 year. It's possible.

**BossChief** · 01-15-2014, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

The only way that they will draft a QB this year is if a team trades for Daniel. Don't see it happening.

I'm not so sure.

Lets not forget two crucial things...

1) Dorsey is a strict BPA guy and this is a somewhat deep draft class at QB
2) even with Donovan McNabb at only 30 years old, Reid spent his top pick on Kevin Kolb...who he replaced with Vick...who he replaced with Foles.

That said, I actually hope (for the first time ever, really) that they leave the QB position alone for a year unless one of the top guys lasts until our pick.

**BossChief** · 01-15-2014, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

The KC defense isn't going to get as good as that 49ers defense was in one offseason.

They sure looked like they had a chance during the first half of the year.

01-14-2014, 08:06 AM
Mr_Tomahawk Prestige Worldwide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spring Hill, KS Casino cash: $3060526	What's the offseason without talk about our QBs? http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2014/1...iel-tyler-bray The KC Chiefs believe they have found their quarterback of the future in Alex Smith. But what about back-ups Chase Daniel and Tyler Bray? Read on for our review of the Kansas City Chiefs 2013 quarterbacks. Tweet(2) Share Share 1 Comment As we review the Kansas City Chiefs position groups in the 2013 season, it makes sense to start with the quarterbacks because everyone loves talking about that position. In Kansas City, it's going to be a big quarterback summer because Alex Smith, who played well last season, has just one year left on his contract. That means Chiefs fans get to spend the offseason talking about quarterback contracts. Before we review the Chiefs and their quarterbacks, Alex Smith: 60.6 %, 3,313 yards, 23 TDs, 7 INTs Chase Daniel: 65.8 %, 248 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT Tyler Bray: N/A All three quarterbacks are new to the Chiefs as of the 2013 season. Smith isn't going anywhere, we know that. He's the Chiefs man. The only question with him is whether the Chiefs give him a multi-year deal this season or next. Daniel didn't exactly shine early on in but he played well in his only extended action this season, Week 17 against the Chargers. He completed 21-of-30 passes for 200 yards, 1 TD and another 59 yards rushing. He has a big contract for a back-up, a reported $10 million over three years, but I suspect he's staying here. Bray is an interesting case because we know so little about him. His big arm was obvious in training camp and the preseason. He's under contract for cheap as an undrafted free agent. I wonder if the Chiefs would be eyeing other developmental quarterbacks in this draft. Best game Read this Report: Chiefs want to extend Alex Joel Thorman Chiefs need to be smart about Alex's deal CWil03 Smith's playoff game in Indy (30-of-46, 378 yards, 4 TDs, 0 INTs) Worst game Smith's regular season game vs. Indy (16-of-28, 153 yards, 0 TDs, 1 INT) Best moment The first half of Smith's playoff game against the Colts. He was straight dominant and made Chiefs fans realize that he can put up a winning performance in the playoffs (besides the part where they lost). Worst moment The missed pass to Cyrus Gray. That one will stick. Injuries None. This is a BIG one. The Chiefs probably won't be so lucky next year. Years under contract Smith (1): $7.5 million in 2014 Daniel (2): $2.35 million in 2014 Bray (2): $495,000 in 2014 Roster changes Competition for the back-up positions is possible. Free agency / Draft The Chiefs will not find a starter in free agency and they are not likely to find a back-up as good as Daniel (at a reasonable price). The Chiefs are more likely to draft a developmental quarterback than anything. Andy Reid comes from the Ron Wolf school of drafting where you select a quarterback every year. That would pit a developmental quarterback against Bray, who was selected last year as an undrafted free agent. Final grade: B The Chiefs weren't winning games because of their quarterback. But, hey, they weren't losing games because of him either. That can be enough to have a successful NFL career. The Chiefs feel like they have found the future of their franchise in Smith so that has to count for something. The Chiefs also get a huge bonus for Smith staying healthy all season. What would you do next year? In a world where emotions don't matter and GMs are willing to risk their team's future, I would not sign Smith to a long-term contract yet. I would let him wait it out with another good year, knowing I have the exclusive franchise tag available. This is purely a financial move for me. Letting Smith play out this year and then using the franchise tag on him twice would cost roughly $40 million over the next three years. Unless Smith is willing to sign a deal for that number, I would consider not signing him right away. Of course, it may be easier to manage the relationship with a multi-year deal, which the Chiefs are expected to explore this offseason. Daniel should stay in Kansas City as should Bray. The Chiefs should give serious thought to Bray being the No. 2 quarterback. If he is not ready for that then they need to bring in more competition for him as the No. 3 quarterback.
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chefsos Fifty eight sixty two... Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Felton, DE Casino cash: $8507676	I think they're going to sit tight at QB. Smith and Daniel aren't going anywhere. I also get the feeling, in contrast to the modern "play him right away" NFL, they would love to have Bray sit and learn (and run the scout team) for 2-3 years, old school-style. I mean, they will still do their due diligence and look at QBs, but I think it won't be a priority this year. Obviously, injuries or other circumstances could wreck that plan.
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