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Old 02-22-2013, 11:22 AM   #1
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Am I going to have to go get the Cassel clip of him throwing the ball 55 yards in the air again? Folks, neither of those throws demonstrate a strong arm.

I'd rather take Barkley than Joekel as well, but he does not have anything more than an average NFL arm. He's Matt Schaub at best.
You dont have to have a super stud arm. Could you compare him to Schaub in arm strength? Sure. You could also compare him to Eli, Rivers, Romo, Brady etc...

Cassel literally has/had the worst arm in the NFL
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:31 AM   #2
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You dont have to have a super stud arm. Could you compare him to Schaub in arm strength? Sure. You could also compare him to Eli, Rivers, Romo, Brady etc...

Cassel literally has/had the worst arm in the NFL
No you can't.

Eli has a stronger arm, Romo has a stronger arm and Brady has a stronger arm.

Matt Barkley's arm isn't an asset. At best, it's not a liability.
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:35 AM   #3
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No you can't.

Eli has a stronger arm, Romo has a stronger arm and Brady has a stronger arm.

Matt Barkley's arm isn't an asset. At best, it's not a liability.
Cmon dude. Im not saying hes Flacco or Rodgers but youre making a very subjective statement. His arm "strength" is probably better than Andrew Luck but that didnt stop people from drooling all over him. I get that you could say its not an 'asset' but to say that it might be a liability is just wrong.
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:36 AM   #4
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Cmon dude. Im not saying hes Flacco or Rodgers but youre making a very subjective statement. His arm "strength" is probably better than Andrew Luck but that didnt stop people from drooling all over him. I get that you could say its not an 'asset' but to say that it might be a liability is just wrong.
He didn't say it was a liability. He said at best, it's not a liability.
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:38 AM   #5
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He didn't say it was a liability. He said at best, it's not a liability.
Yeah "at best". Which is just a cop out for "just in case Im wrong about it"
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:38 AM   #6
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His arm "strength" is probably better than Andrew Luck but that didnt stop people from drooling all over him.
ummm ... no
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:40 AM   #7
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ummm ... no
One of many scouting reports of Luck from last year:

Weaknesses

Doesn't have the quickest release - displays a slight hitch and tends to pat the ball, which can give away his intentions

Arm strength, while adequate, isn't going to blow anyone away

It isn't his fault there is so much hype around him, but it is tough to imagine Luck living up to all of the expectations (some prognosticators have already labeled him a Hall of Famer)


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Old 02-22-2013, 11:42 AM   #8
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One of many scouting reports of Luck from last year:

Weaknesses

Doesn't have the quickest release - displays a slight hitch and tends to pat the ball, which can give away his intentions

Arm strength, while adequate, isn't going to blow anyone away

It isn't his fault there is so much hype around him, but it is tough to imagine Luck living up to all of the expectations (some prognosticators have already labeled him a Hall of Famer)


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/a.php/129573/nfl...#ixzz2LePPIuHp
Never said Luck has a huge arm

but he has a natural arm ... he doesn't have to 'load up' which is the important part of arm strength. imo.
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ummm ... no
Fantastic counterpoint. I'm convinced.
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Cmon dude. Im not saying hes Flacco or Rodgers but youre making a very subjective statement. His arm "strength" is probably better than Andrew Luck but that didnt stop people from drooling all over him. I get that you could say its not an 'asset' but to say that it might be a liability is just wrong.
Of course I am - care to tell me how I can make an 'objective' statement regarding arm strength? It ain't madden - there's not an 'ARM' rating for him I can just go look up.

But I've seen him throw - his arm is average on its best day. It's not better than Matt Schaubs and do you ever list arm strength as being one of Schaub's strengths?

You're seeing what you want to see here. His arm is just an average arm. By definition, that's not an asset - it's just not a liability.

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Wait...I just re-read. His arm strength is better than Andrew Lucks?

Yeah, I'm done having this conversation with you. You clearly have no goddamn clue what you're talking about.
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