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Old 12-27-2012, 01:29 PM   #1
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Kiper's pre-combine rankings......

RGIII - 24th overall player
Vontaze Burfict - 15th overall player - "Great instincts, makes plays sideline to sideline and is far more disciplined than he gets credit for."
Landry Jones - 4th overall player
This speaks volumes.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:10 PM   #2
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Last year a QB was not taken #1 overall. 2008

I wonder if the Dolphins wish they had taken Matt Ryan instead of Jake Long?
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:15 PM   #3
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Last year a QB was not taken #1 overall. 2008

I wonder if the Dolphins wish they had taken Matt Ryan instead of Jake Long?
Exactly.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:17 PM   #4
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Last year a QB was not taken #1 overall. 2008

I wonder if the Dolphins wish they had taken Matt Ryan instead of Jake Long?
No kidding.

Matt Ryan, 5 months before the draft, was getting killed for being the #1 QB prospect that year.

It's comical that the most glaring need on this team and people want to entertain having Te'o or Star on this team. Another ****ing D lineman or inside backer that won't do an ounce of good when the offense can't score more than 10 points.

People are so ****ing scared to take a QB, but they'll invest the 4th top 10 DLine pick in 6 years and be perfectly content with that, when you can get 3-4 DE's (we already have the NT) in the 4th round or later.

Not only is the coaching staff, front office a pack of morons, 90% of this fanbase is too.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:21 PM   #5
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No kidding.

Matt Ryan, 5 months before the draft, was getting killed for being the #1 QB prospect that year.

It's comical that the most glaring need on this team and people want to entertain having Te'o or Star on this team. Another ****ing D lineman or inside backer that won't do an ounce of good when the offense can't score more than 10 points.

People are so ****ing scared to take a QB, but they'll invest the 4th top 10 DLine pick in 6 years and be perfectly content with that, when you can get 3-4 DE's (we already have the NT) in the 4th round or later.

Not only is the coaching staff, front office a pack of morons, 90% of this fanbase is too.
Yep. We have an elite RB that should finish with over 1500 yards, but they'll still finish at 2-14. These dipshits just DO NOT get how important the QB is.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:22 PM   #6
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Yep. We have an elite RB that should finish with over 1500 yards, but they'll still finish at 2-14. These dipshits just DO NOT get how important the QB is.
let's just draft another elite RB and only run the ball
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:30 PM   #7
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No kidding.

Matt Ryan, 5 months before the draft, was getting killed for being the #1 QB prospect that year.

It's comical that the most glaring need on this team and people want to entertain having Te'o or Star on this team. Another ****ing D lineman or inside backer that won't do an ounce of good when the offense can't score more than 10 points.

People are so ****ing scared to take a QB, but they'll invest the 4th top 10 DLine pick in 6 years and be perfectly content with that, when you can get 3-4 DE's (we already have the NT) in the 4th round or later.

Not only is the coaching staff, front office a pack of morons, 90% of this fanbase is too.

We have had several games this year where the defense held the other team to only a few TDs or less. That's pretty decent in today's NFL. Even decent to solid QB play might have won us a few more games this year.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:15 PM   #8
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We have had several games this year where the defense held the other team to only a few TDs or less. That's pretty decent in today's NFL. Even decent to solid QB play might have won us a few more games this year.
I'd venture to say solid QB play would have won quite a few more games this season.

Cassel: 12 INT, 9 FUM
Quinn: 8 INT, 1 FUM

That's 30 TO's right there. Granted not all of them were their faults, but let's face it, it's amazing that they kept the games as close as they did considering that seemingly everytime the defense took the field it was either short or they were tired because the offense just went 3nOut for the 4th time that half.
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:19 PM   #9
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I'd venture to say solid QB play would have won quite a few more games this season.

Cassel: 12 INT, 9 FUM
Quinn: 8 INT, 1 FUM

That's 30 TO's right there. Granted not all of them were their faults, but let's face it, it's amazing that they kept the games as close as they did considering that seemingly everytime the defense took the field it was either short or they were tired because the offense just went 3nOut for the 4th time that half.
Yep, better draft Teo to shore up the D / dumbass Chiefs fans
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:22 PM   #10
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I'd venture to say solid QB play would have won quite a few more games this season.

Cassel: 12 INT, 9 FUM
Quinn: 8 INT, 1 FUM

That's 30 TO's right there. Granted not all of them were their faults, but let's face it, it's amazing that they kept the games as close as they did considering that seemingly everytime the defense took the field it was either short or they were tired because the offense just went 3nOut for the 4th time that half.
Off the top of my head....The team beats Baltimore, Pitt, Denver, and Indy with even marginal QB play.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:13 PM   #11
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:23 PM   #13
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This year's QB class is just fine. All the analysts are spoiled with the recent rookie QB phenoms. But there are several QB's in this class that are going to play in the NFL. I hope they all succeed. I just want one of them to be ours.
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But here's the thing - Pest, is anything he said there inaccurate?

He's a big, strong-armed QB with bad feet that leaves the pocket too soon. He came up from a spread offense and needed to learn a lot at the NFL level.

Absolutely all of that was accurate. What he didn't get right was his belief that Gabbert would be able to overcome that. Frankly, I don't believe Gabbert had a prayer in JAX. That was an awful situation, especially for a kid that clearly needed a year or even 2 of study and preparation for this level.

Mayock wasn't wrong in his analysis, he was just wrong in how Gabbert developed. Can you really hold the fact that Jacksonville threw Gabbert to the wolves well before he was ready?

I like Mayock quite a bit.
Honestly the only reason anyone knows Mel Kiper's name is because he was the first guy doing this on TV. If he had to break into that job today, he'd get laughed off of the internet.

Now he just tries to stay conservative to keep his job. There are better draft guys on TV. Hell, you can find better guys on your average draft website, and I'm sure few of them have access to the film Kiper has.
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