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Old 11-06-2012, 07:43 AM  
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Russ Lande says Chiefs should "stick to their board"
Geno Smith has all the tangibles - arm strength, accuracy, athleticism - and has a solid football IQ. He has poor mechanics and footwork. He's super raw and won't be ready to start right away, even in the shotgun NFL. Probably not worth a top 5 pick.

He sees Barkley are the flip side of the same coin - VERY polished, NFL-ready, but tangibles are average. Higher floor, lower ceiling. Would typically be a mid-1st guy (15-20).

He thinks Pioli is going to go with another late-rounder like Stanzi. And he hasn't once said he thinks that's the WRONG idea.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:24 AM   #61
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Like Cleveland, we are going to have to play the hand we are dealt and that's whole point.
Do you honestly believe that these top 3 QBs will be available in the late first round?

They will all be gone in the top 10, dumbass.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:24 AM   #62
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Barkley sounds alot like another Matt Ryan. NFL ready, average tangibles. Not real sexy or exciting because he doesnt make plays with his feet or have the canon arm, so it doesnt excite alot of fans.
To be fair, what has Matt Ryan REALLY done? A lot of good regular seasons and no playoff wins is a pretty fair indictment thus far.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:25 AM   #63
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Passing on the first wave and trading back into the first nets you guys like Tebow, Quinn, and Weeden. Sweet moves bros.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:26 AM   #64
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To be fair, what has Matt Ryan REALLY done? A lot of good regular seasons and no playoff wins is a pretty fair indictment thus far.
We'll see if loading up the best group of WRs in the game around him is enough to get him to do anything
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:27 AM   #65
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Generally, quarterbacks are taken 10 picks to one round earlier than they graded out because of their position.

I see what you are saying but I'm not sure this year. These guys are all really overrated imo and the worst may be yet to come. If you really look at what they have done in the big picture it is not much.
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To be fair, what has Matt Ryan REALLY done? A lot of good regular seasons and no playoff wins is a pretty fair indictment thus far.
I get that. I do.....But dont overlook what he has done for that franchise as a whole. Stablized the program and made them perennial winners. Remember how downtrodden that franchise was before he arrived? The Vick and Petrino debacles.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:28 AM   #67
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Passing on the first wave and trading back into the first nets you guys like Tebow, Quinn, and Weeden. Sweet moves bros.
We could always wait until the 2nd round. The next John Beck.
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Tannehill had the same knock all these guys have. He shit the bed when the game is on the line. He didn't have "it" and he wasn't "clutch." We saw that last Sunday. Could you see the real difference between him and Luck? **** the stats guys.

It's not just about accuracy and the other crap. They are never going to win anything with Tannehill imo. We better find the "clutch" QB in this class or we are spinning our wheels. It's more important than anything in today's game. Far too many games come down to the end and it happens more often than not in the playoffs.
just shut the **** up, you ****ing idiot

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To be fair, what has Matt Ryan REALLY done? A lot of good regular seasons and no playoff wins is a pretty fair indictment thus far.
I think that's fair, but he's made a ton of clutch 4th quarter plays in his career, just hasn't done it in the postseason yet. He can't fail again this year, he'll take some heat with another one and done as good as he's been in the reg. season.
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I get that. I do.....But dont overlook what he has done for that franchise as a whole. Stablized the program and made them perennial winners. Remember how downtrodden that franchise was before he arrived? The Vick and Petrino debacles.
They were in the Super Bowl in 1998. Just sayin'.
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I'm tired of all the over the top bullshit with these QB's. Tannehill was scrutinized up and down and I just heard the other day he has the best completion percentage over 30 yards in the entire NFL. Rookie QB's are just getting better coming out and can make an immediate impact.
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When they drafted Carson Palmer you mean?

No, that was absolutely the right pick.
I am talking about when they got AJ Green and Andy Dalton.

Palmer has had two winning seasons and two playoff losses in his career.

Do you think Andy Dalton will have a better career? I sure do.
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people were crying their stupid eyes out last year about how Tannehill wasn't worth a first round pick...

and they were wrong, per usual....

same shit this year...same shit every year....
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