NFL Draft Countdown seems to think we need a CB as well... - Page 4

htismaqe · 02-14-2006, 09:12 PM

1) Cornerback
Improvement was made but they still need another top corner.

2) Defensive Tackle
This team lacks a difference maker on the interior.

3) Wide Receiver
Eddie Kennison is getting older and they don't have a true #1.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/fea...needs.html#kcc

MOhillbilly · 02-21-2006, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder

I'd really be surprised if Bernard hits the open market, but he would be a candidate if he did.

I don't like the idea of signing a player like Jackson, who has never really reached his full potential, and is on the the downside of his career.

The Grady Jackson had 50+ tackles last year.

milkman · 02-21-2006, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

The Grady Jackson had 50+ tackles last year.

Based on his first couple of seasons with the Raiders, he had the potential to be so much more than he is.

And he is going into his 10th season, about the time age catches up to a big man like him.

MOhillbilly · 02-21-2006, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder

Based on his first couple of seasons with the Raiders, he had the potential to be so much more than he is.

And he is going into his 10th season, about the time age catches up to a big man like him.

Im suspect that any of the potential UDTs in this draft will pan out,atleast the ones that will be around 20.
Pure speculation on my part but RS+jackson= double digit sack numbers for DJ & JA and astonomical numbers for KM.
having a bigman would also blur the lines abit for the backfield.
because you sign a 3-4 year deal doesnt mean it gaurenteed, and he wouldnt be an everydown player just in run/playaction heavy situations. Plug in dalton and siavi ect.

milkman · 02-21-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

Im suspect that any of the potential UDTs in this draft will pan out,atleast the ones that will be around 20.
Pure speculation on my part but RS+jackson= double digit sack numbers for DJ & JA and astonomical numbers for KM.
having a bigman would also blur the lines abit for the backfield.
because you sign a 3-4 year deal doesnt mean it gaurenteed, and he wouldnt be an everydown player just in run/playaction heavy situations. Plug in dalton and siavi ect.

Signing Grady Jackson wouldn't be a terrible move, but I'd be more inclined to address that need in the draft.

I'm not sure that DJ is ever going to be a double digit sack man, since he's not really used to blitz all that much, at least for now in Gunt's D.

ct · 02-21-2006, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

If you want the biggest bang for your buck and are thinking BAA in the first round, it could be an OLB to replace Bell. You've got Hawk, Greenway and Ryans. Not the biggest need, but one of those three could be the best value at the 20 pick.

Ryans is the only of those 3 that has any chance of falling to 20.

htismaqe · 02-21-2006, 11:39 AM

It's pretty well-documented that free agent defensive tackles are much more risky than drafted defensive tackles.

Defensive tackles in general are a risk. Big guys like that tend to have more motivational problems.

MOhillbilly · 02-21-2006, 11:54 AM

cattleprod.

FA vs. drafted DT? maybe were just jaded..........

Chiefnj · 02-21-2006, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by coryt

Ryans is the only of those 3 that has any chance of falling to 20.

I wouldn't be too sure of that. LB's almost always tend to slip in the draft - DJ, Boss Bailey, Henderson.

Mecca · 02-21-2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

I wouldn't be too sure of that. LB's almost always tend to slip in the draft - DJ, Boss Bailey, Henderson.

Ones with question marks.........DJ got railed for months going into that draft, which I'm sure we all remember. Boss Bailey has 2 reconstructed knees, EJ Henderson ran a bad 40 and killed his draft slot.

Spicy McHaggis · 02-21-2006, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Ones with question marks.........DJ got railed for months going into that draft, which I'm sure we all remember. Boss Bailey has 2 reconstructed knees, EJ Henderson ran a bad 40 and killed his draft slot.

EJ had back problems too, IIRC. Unless God is truly a Chiefs fan there is no way Hawk falls to 10 let alone 20.

Chiefnj · 02-21-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Ones with question marks.........DJ got railed for months going into that draft, which I'm sure we all remember. Boss Bailey has 2 reconstructed knees, EJ Henderson ran a bad 40 and killed his draft slot.

DJ got railed, but most mocks and experts talked about him going in the top 10. Draft gurus were head over heals about Bailey and the numbers he put up in his workouts. There was lots of talk how Bailey wasn't going to make it past the Rams who had something like the 10th pick of the draft.

dj56dt58 · 02-22-2006, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder

Battle, along with Kawika, was supposed to be the most improved player in camp last year.

I didn't see believe it of Mitchell, until I saw it with my own eyes.

If Battle improved as much as Kawika, and he hasn't taken a step back because of injury, then I think he might just be ready to compete for that #2 spot.

I forgot they said that. WEll hell if you think about it that way, the chiefs said their most improved players in camp last year were:

LJ-damn
Mitchell-much much improve
Battle-?

LJ and mitchell were definately improved so I guess I would like to see Battle get a shot. But also, 30 isn't that old. Ty Law is older than EW and everyone seems to want him in KC.

Mecca · 02-22-2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

I forgot they said that. WEll hell if you think about it that way, the chiefs said their most improved players in camp last year were:

LJ-damn
Mitchell-much much improve
Battle-?

LJ and mitchell were definately improved so I guess I would like to see Battle get a shot. But also, 30 isn't that old. Ty Law is older than EW and everyone seems to want him in KC.

Ty Law also has talent and ability Eric Warfield has never even dreamed of having..........

milkman · 02-22-2006, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Ty Law also has talent and ability Eric Warfield has never even dreamed of having..........

That may well be, but I don't want to throw millions of dollars more into the corner position when our problems on defense lie elsewhere.

Chiefnj · 02-23-2006, 08:04 AM

From Covitz's article this morning:

"Edwards’ imprint on this draft could be especially important because the Chiefs, who have the 20th pick in the first round, have targeted cornerback and safety as primary needs. "

All those mocks that have the Chiefs looking at a corner in round 1 might not be far off.

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Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	From Covitz's article this morning: "Edwards’ imprint on this draft could be especially important because the Chiefs, who have the 20th pick in the first round, have targeted cornerback and safety as primary needs. " All those mocks that have the Chiefs looking at a corner in round 1 might not be far off. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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