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Stinger · 09:09 AM

will get a 4-6 game suspension. ON ESPN First Take. Commissioner Roger Goodel should have more this afternoon.

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@Adam_Schefter: Filed to ESPN: @mortreport and I are reporting that Ben Roethlisberger will be suspended four to six games, with conditions attached.

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Update # 2 via Twitter

@mortreport: The suspension is expected to be conditional - could be 6 games reduced to 4 based on behavior & compliance with league doctors, etc.

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Sources: Roethlisberger ban 4-6 games

By Chris Mortensen and Adam Schefter
ESPN

Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger will be suspended for four to six games on Wednesday for violating the NFL's personal conduct policy, according to multiple sources.

Roethlisberger

When the suspension is announced, it will contain conditions that will allow it to be reduced based on Roethlisberger's behavior and compliance with clinical evaluators.

Commissioner Roger Goodell's verdict will reinforce a message that NFL employees will be held to a higher standard than the law.

Steelers employees were bracing Tuesday night for what they suspected would be an eight-game suspension, but two sources said it would not be eight games.

Chris Mortensen is ESPN's senior NFL analyst. Adam Schefter is ESPN's NFL Insider.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5121614

**SAUTO** · 04-21-2010, 12:04 PM

saying now that the deal is done

6 games could be reduced to 4 if conditions are met

**penguinz** · 04-21-2010, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lono

Listen, I'm not going to get in a name calling contest with you. What did he do wrong? If these women hadn't accused him of this would we be having this discussion? I think not.

You don't think banging a chick in a public restroom would be a violation of NFL Personal Conduct rules?

**penguinz** · 04-21-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

saying now that the deal is done

6 games could be reduced to 4 if conditions are met

Or add more if conditions are not met.

MoreLemonPledge · 04-21-2010, 12:23 PM

Back in 2004, my then girlfriend (now wife) lived with her best friend. Her best friend was a bartender at a high end restaurant located in the Mt. Washington area of Pittsburgh and it was not uncommon to see multiple Steelers dining there each weekend. This best friend and her colleagues from the restaurant hung out with us a lot on the weekends. One night, my wife's friend and her bartender colleague met up with us at a bar. We were all sitting around and my wife's friend said to her colleague that she had to tell us what had happened earlier that week. Here's her tale — we'll call her Mandy:

Mandy and her friends are at a bar in the Strip District area of Pittsburgh dancing and drinking. Ben (and little Ben) arrive at the bar and over the course of the evening, Ben takes an interest in Mandy and approaches her. I believe he recognized her from the restaurant, but at any rate, they have some drinks and dance.

He invites her and her friend back to his place. They head back to Ben's house along with a couple friends/bodyguards of his. Mandy's friend takes up with a bodyguard/friend of Ben's downstairs and Mandy heads upstairs with Ben.

He shows her around the house a bit upstairs and then they head to his room. They made out a little but mostly were talking. At this point, she said she had pretty much decided nothing was going to happen because he was pretty drunk and really arrogant. At this point, Ben gets a call on his cell and heads to the bathroom. She looks around his room and sees in his closet he has dozens of football jerseys. She notices one in particular that's autographed all over.

In a moment of questionable decision-making, she nabs the jersey and throws it out the window of the bedroom intending to grab it on her way out. She is walking to the door of the bedroom to go find her friend when Ben emerges from the bathroom naked as the day he was born and at full attention.

She said she was shocked, certainly by the full nude approach, but also because he had a gray penis (this is the part of the story we've laughed at most over the years - such a bizarre detail. We asked so many times what she meant by "gray" and she just said it was gray and almost looked ashy. Amazing). She sort of laughed a little and said she had to leave.

He cursed her out at this point, calling her a tease (the worst crime in Ben's world, apparently) and telling her to get the **** out. She ran downstairs, collected her friend and away they went... but not before collecting the jersey. They had no ride so they hoofed it until they were able to get a cab to meet them somewhere further along.

Next morning, she wakes up with a great story and this jersey. She also wakes up with several voicemails. Turns out Mandy's friend had made a connection with Ben's bodyguard/friend and given him her cell.

Mandy's friend had left several VMs for Mandy because the bodyguard had contacted the friend saying in no uncertain terms that Ben needed that jersey back. There would be no problems so long as the jersey was returned. Turns out the jersey was a QB competition jersey signed by a bunch of Hall of Famers like Steve Young/Elway/Marino etc and was extra special to young Ben.

Mandy was already regretting the theft and was worried about her job considering Ben knew where she worked. She gave the jersey to her friend who made arrangements to get it to the bodyguard. The jersey was returned and no more was every made of the incident.

As to the veracity of the tale, there are some relevant points to be made. First, this girl was pretty attractive, so it was not beyond her to have ended up with Ben. Second, she was a pretty decent person and not someone prone to exaggeration. In fact, the biggest doubt any of us had about the story at first was that Mandy would've been involved because she was not the type to chase a football player, let alone go home with him. Any doubts I had were erased by the bizarre nature of the details she provided. And as I said, she told this story, often begrudgingly, many many times and the details never wavered. There was actually a period at the beginning where she wouldn't tell the story and demanded secrecy from those of us that knew because she was so spooked about the jersey aspect even after returning it. She was sure Ben was gonna get her fired or something.

Anyhow, that's the tale. Do with it what you will and believe it or not, but it happened and the legend of the gray penis will live on. Here's hoping he got some special lotion or something before he started attacking girls with it.

http://deadspin.com/5520027/a-new-bi...d-a-gray-penis

Carlota69 · 04-21-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lono

This is stupid. So basically he is getting supspended for going to a bar and getting drunk. I would say half the NFL should get suspended then.

Um..U may want to get updated on what happened...

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10108/1051441-66.stm

Brock · 04-21-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69

Um..U may want to get updated on what happened...

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10108/1051441-66.stm

That article doesn't exactly make the point you were hoping for.

Carlota69 · 04-21-2010, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lono

I can agree with that. If there is more and they are going to suspend him, I think they should release that info.

Let me add I know they will not.

Here's an article frfom todays Pittsburgh paper...

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10108/1051441-66.stm

Carlota69 · 04-21-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

That article doesn't exactly make the point you were hoping for.

It tells a story...one that should be at least considered.

Hammock Parties · 04-21-2010, 02:20 PM

How does one get a gray penis?

STD maybe?

Frazod · 04-21-2010, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

How does one get a gray penis?

STD maybe?

Maybe he raped some voodoo bitch and she cursed him.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-21-2010, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lono

Like I said, then ban going to bars. They have never punished players for going to a bar and getting drunk. Without charges that is all he did. If you are going to punish him for that, then punish every other player that goes to a bar and gets drunk.

Are you really this ****ing stupid or are you just uninformed?

Did you read the entire 574 page report that was provided to the NFL and Rooney's?

Do you think it's acceptable behavior for a 29 year old man to walk around a bar with his penis out? Do you think that a 29 year old, Super Bowl QB needs a bodyguard to go to a college bar in Georgia? Do you think it's okay for that bodyguard to block the entrance to a bathroom so that a girl's friends can't gain entry? Do you think it's okay for a 29 year old to continue ****ing a girl when she says no?

There is a massive amount of evidence to support Roethlisberger not only providing under age girls with alcohol, but also of rape.

Unfortunately, it's extremely difficult for ANY municipality to prove rape when enormous amounts of alcohol are present.

Ben Roethlisberger wasn't acquitted of rape - the fact is that the city determined they couldn't win the case, so he was never charged. That does NOT mean that a crime wasn't committed.

The first case hasn't even gone to trial, so again, you are incorrect.

How many other NFL players have been accused of rape not once, but twice in a 12 month span. Do you really think he's not guilty of anything?

Mecca · 04-21-2010, 02:30 PM

If they trade him, I'll laugh my ass off.

Ruin your team, win 3 games, do it.

Lono · 04-22-2010, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Are you really this ****ing stupid or are you just uninformed?

Did you read the entire 574 page report that was provided to the NFL and Rooney's?

Do you think it's acceptable behavior for a 29 year old man to walk around a bar with his penis out? Do you think that a 29 year old, Super Bowl QB needs a bodyguard to go to a college bar in Georgia? Do you think it's okay for that bodyguard to block the entrance to a bathroom so that a girl's friends can't gain entry? Do you think it's okay for a 29 year old to continue ****ing a girl when she says no?

There is a massive amount of evidence to support Roethlisberger not only providing under age girls with alcohol, but also of rape.

Unfortunately, it's extremely difficult for ANY municipality to prove rape when enormous amounts of alcohol are present.

Ben Roethlisberger wasn't acquitted of rape - the fact is that the city determined they couldn't win the case, so he was never charged. That does NOT mean that a crime wasn't committed.

The first case hasn't even gone to trial, so again, you are incorrect.

How many other NFL players have been accused of rape not once, but twice in a 12 month span. Do you really think he's not guilty of anything?

Dane you are the one person on this board, who if I ever met, I would beat the living crap out of. That's all.

Portlantis · 04-22-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Lono

Dane you are the one person on this board, who if I ever met, I would beat the living crap out of. That's all.

Why? Because he actually backs up his arguments with facts?

Lono · 04-22-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Portlantis

Why? Because he actually backs up his arguments with facts?

Did you read that article? I read most of it, and I don't believe either side. Like the dudes on espn radio said last night. Goodell is setting a pretty big precedent. With this ruling you better not go out in public and get drunk, get a dui, any of that. Because now anything under 6 games for any misconduct will be unfair.

People jump to way too many conclusions without knowing any facts. Is Roth an idiot? Most certainly. Did he actually rape these women? Who knows that either. In this country we are innocent until proven guilty. He wasn't proven guilty. I do find it hard to believe that 6'5" qb forcefully did a girl while she was sitting on the toilet.

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