Chiefs Gilberry Penalty

Chiefnj2 · 12:27 PM

Was the Gilberry roughing the passer call any different than what happened to Palmer on this play?

Goto first post for how to view.

Chiefnj2 · 09-21-2009, 12:00 PM

It didn't link to the correct highlight, I'm referring to the Clay Matthews sack in the 2nd quarter that you can find from the play by play:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/200909...ost-playbyplay

Hydrae · 09-21-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

It didn't link to the correct highlight, I'm referring to the Clay Matthews sack in the 2nd quarter that you can find from the play by play:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/200909...ost-playbyplay

Looked pretty similar to me.

The one thing I noticed with Gilberry though was his forearm pretty much hit Russell in the head. I figured that was what the call was for, not for jumping on the ball carrier. Of course I would rather have a forearm to the helmet than having someone land on my head like happened to Palmer.

Hydrae · 09-21-2009, 12:20 PM

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Looked pretty similar to me.

The one thing I noticed with Gilberry though was his forearm pretty much hit Russell in the head. I figured that was what the call was for, not for jumping on the ball carrier. Of course I would rather have a forearm to the helmet than having someone land on my head like happened to Palmer.

Here is the highlight, watch the replay after the call. Gilberry went through the forehead of Russell with both forearms. Of course the ref in back of the play that threw the flag would not have been able to see that though.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/200909...iefs#tab:watch

KCrockaholic · 09-21-2009, 03:49 PM

I see no difference. The Chiefs-Raiders ref crew was penatly happy. It pisses me off when the ref determine the outcome of a football game. Say we had the GB-CIN ref crew, we probably would not have been penalized. Its like in school when a teacher determines the outcome of your grade, when say you had a different teacher and you put out the same effort in class you get a different grade just because the teacher feels like it. Understand my analogy?

Pasta Little Brioni · 09-21-2009, 12:01 PM

Might as well make the QB's wear flags.

Mr. Laz · 09-21-2009, 12:02 PM

That penalty was complete crap.

Russell didn't slide and wasn't down by contact, he could of stood back up and ran.

The only thing the Chiefs did (sort of) wrong is jumped on him instead of just touching him.

Dam refs must of gotten some kickback from the faiders.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 09-21-2009, 12:03 PM

I cracked up watching Haley tell the ref that it was a bullshit call. From what I could hear, and read from his lips he was saying it was the 2nd or 3rd bullshit call during the game, and he was tired of their bullshit. I LOL'd pretty good.

Coogs · 09-21-2009, 12:27 PM

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I cracked up watching Haley tell the ref that it was a bullshit call. From what I could hear, and read from his lips he was saying it was the 2nd or 3rd bullshit call during the game, and he was tired of their bullshit. I LOL'd pretty good.

The other two... one was where they called Carr for illegal contact on the 3rd and 2 incomplete pass that Flowers defended where they waived off interference on Flowers. Go back and watch that one. It is totally bogus as well and led directly to 3 points that the Faiders should not have had.

The 3rd one was the push in the back block on a running play to the left that was about 15 yards down field. Even the announcers said that one was pretty cheap.

You have to be able to overcome the refs to win in any sport, but I really thought the refs got in the way of the game on this particular day.

CoMoChief · 09-21-2009, 12:31 PM

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The other two... one was where they called Carr for illegal contact on the 3rd and 2 incomplete pass that Flowers defended where they waived off interference on Flowers. Go back and watch that one. It is totally bogus as well and led directly to 3 points that the Faiders should not have had.

The 3rd one was the push in the back block on a running play to the left that was about 15 yards down field. Even the announcers said that one was pretty cheap.

You have to be able to overcome the refs to win in any sport, but I really thought the refs got in the way of the game on this particular day.

Absolutely they did. Having that said, Cassel not thrown those picks, the Chiefs would have won regardless. Gotta overcome terrible officiating sometimes if you wanna win.

Anyone know some of the ref's home addresses? I wanna go vandalize their yards.

**morphius** · 09-21-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

The other two... one was where they called Carr for illegal contact on the 3rd and 2 incomplete pass that Flowers defended where they waived off interference on Flowers. Go back and watch that one. It is totally bogus as well and led directly to 3 points that the Faiders should not have had.

The 3rd one was the push in the back block on a running play to the left that was about 15 yards down field. Even the announcers said that one was pretty cheap.

You have to be able to overcome the refs to win in any sport, but I really thought the refs got in the way of the game on this particular day.

I saw Albert jump on a play where the D player across from him pulled an obvious Neil Smith fake start, Albert of course got the flag and 5 yards back we walked.

**Bane** · 09-21-2009, 12:04 PM

Uh I just watched that for nuttn....No comment.

keg in kc · 09-21-2009, 12:04 PM

I thought it was a horrible call. Dude dripped over his own lineman, went down head first, not a slide, he was not down because he hadn't been touched by a defender and no whistle had blown, and the hits were clean (i.e. not helmet shots).

CoMoChief · 09-21-2009, 12:04 PM

That was a horse shit call. As a defender you have to anticipate the QB is going to get up and run if he didn't go down by contact. The play wasn't dead, He (Russell) wasn't down by contact. His fatass just ran into his own lineman and fell down. Maybe they should start making sacks illegal.

**Bane** · 09-21-2009, 12:08 PM

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That was a horse shit call. As a defender you have to anticipate the QB is going to get up and run. The play wasn't dead, He (Russell) wasn't down by contact. His fatass just ran into his own lineman and fell down. Maybe they should start making sacks illegal.

Prob wont be long and hitting anyone with anything but your ass will be a personal foul!!!

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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7873688	It didn't link to the correct highlight, I'm referring to the Clay Matthews sack in the 2nd quarter that you can find from the play by play: http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/200909...ost-playbyplay __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $4702900	I see no difference. The Chiefs-Raiders ref crew was penatly happy. It pisses me off when the ref determine the outcome of a football game. Say we had the GB-CIN ref crew, we probably would not have been penalized. Its like in school when a teacher determines the outcome of your grade, when say you had a different teacher and you put out the same effort in class you get a different grade just because the teacher feels like it. Understand my analogy?
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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	That penalty was complete crap. Russell didn't slide and wasn't down by contact, he could of stood back up and ran. The only thing the Chiefs did (sort of) wrong is jumped on him instead of just touching him. Dam refs must of gotten some kickback from the faiders. __________________
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Bane C.H.I.E.F.S Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: **** your face Casino cash: $10005055	Uh I just watched that for nuttn....No comment.
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I thought it was a horrible call. Dude dripped over his own lineman, went down head first, not a slide, he was not down because he hadn't been touched by a defender and no whistle had blown, and the hits were clean (i.e. not helmet shots).
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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8042254	That was a horse shit call. As a defender you have to anticipate the QB is going to get up and run if he didn't go down by contact. The play wasn't dead, He (Russell) wasn't down by contact. His fatass just ran into his own lineman and fell down. Maybe they should start making sacks illegal. Last edited by CoMoChief; 09-21-2009 at 12:25 PM..
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