Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck.

[Hammock Parties]

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

There's a reason he did not show you the table in this fashion (even though that's the default appearance for this chart before you re-sort the columns).

I guarantee you it isn't because he simply didn't know the data.

Clay, as always, will selectively utilize and manipulate date to his hearts content and then insist he's just trying to educate us hapless rubes.

The guy's the worst kind of full of shit.

You would think that with eleventy billion posts on this site that some football knowledge would accidentally end up in his brain. Nope. Instead he just keeps up his moronic meme that Smith sucks because he doesn't throw the ball far. That's a take that a reeruned six year old would have.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Phil Simms HOF

[GordonGekko]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Can't wait till the playoffs to start, it will prove if Alex Smith isn't shit or not. Does he join Dawson, Montana, and DeBerg or is he Bono, Grbac, Green, Kenney, Cassel?

Exactly!

All this shitkicking going on as of late to whether AS is a good QB or not, should wait until after the season is over. We have games (important games) to play fellas. AS is our warhorse right now and we have an invitation to the playoffs so let's live in the now.

[O.city]

Just as it was when the pro Alex Smith guys were using it, using wins and loses to justify an individual players worth is asinine.

Look at the Texans this year. Watt is probably the best defensive player in the entire NFL and plays for a team who will likely have the first overall pick.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by GordonGekko

Exactly!

All this shitkicking going on as of late to whether AS is a good QB or not, should wait until after the season is over. We have games (important games) to play fellas. AS is our warhorse right now and we have an invitation to the playoffs so let's live in the now.

So some of you guys are only going to give Smith this years playoffs to prove himself? if he doesn't win a game it was a failure of a season and he no chance to ever win another playoff game??
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[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by O.city

Just as it was when the pro Alex Smith guys were using it, using wins and loses to justify an individual players worth is asinine.

Look at the Texans this year. Watt is probably the best defensive player in the entire NFL and plays for a team who will likely have the first overall pick.

I really don't want to get into this argument, but I have to say something.

The overwhelming majority of the posters who have "defended" Alex Smith from the get-go are also the posters who take any and every opportunity to bash QB's like Ryan, Peyton, Romo and Rivers (among others) for being "playoff chokers".

So why exactly is is OK to judge other QB's by playoff wins, but not AS?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

So some of you guys are only going to give Smith this years playoffs to prove himself? if he doesn't win a game it was a failure of a season and he no chance to ever win another playoff game??
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Oh jesus, that's rich.

Some of these guys won't give him a chance to prove himself unless he wins the damn Super Bowl.

'Because championships are all that matters' or some other such absurdity.

Guy took a 2 win team to an 11 (and counting) win season and in so doing will account for 4k yards of total offense with a 90+ passer rating and these assclowns are still just waiting for him to lose so they can savage the guy.

For over 60 NFL starts he's been exactly this quarterback. A guy that's going to give you a 90ish passer rating, a 60% completion percentage and isn't going to turn the ball over. And for some this kind of QB essentially grows on trees and has next to no value.

Makes sense.

[tonyetony]

Trust me the goalposts will get moved again and again and again. If we win the SB the three little haters will say that it was a fluke and they won't give him props until he wins a second one. Claynus would even start a thread proclaiming that AS is the worst QB to ever win a SB.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I really don't want to get into this argument, but I have to say something.

The overwhelming majority of the posters who have "defended" Alex Smith from the get-go are also the posters who take any and every opportunity to bash QB's like Ryan, Peyton, Romo and Rivers (among others) for being "playoff chokers".

So why exactly is is OK to judge other QB's by playoff wins, but not AS?

Short answer?

Your thesis is incorrect.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Oh jesus, that's rich.

Some of these guys won't give him a chance to prove himself unless he wins the damn Super Bowl.

'Because championships are all that matters' or some other such absurdity.

Guy took a 2 win team to an 11 (and counting) win season and in so doing will account for 4k yards of total offense with a 90+ passer rating and these assclowns are still just waiting for him to lose so they can savage the guy.

For over 60 NFL starts he's been exactly this quarterback. A guy that's going to give you a 90ish passer rating, a 60% completion percentage and isn't going to turn the ball over. And for some this kind of QB essentially grows on trees and has next to no value.

Makes sense.

100% true. Alot of guys on here are just waiting for him to fail so they can pull an "I told ya so"


I'm not saying he's Manning or even close, but he's a damn solid QB. relax and enjoy the moment.
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[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Short answer?

Your thesis is incorrect.

So you're saying that people here HAVEN'T bashed Manning, Rivers, Ryan, etc because they have average/below average/poor playoff records?

I wonder if we're visiting the same website, because it's been constant for YEARS.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So you're saying that people here HAVEN'T bashed Manning, Rivers, Ryan, etc because they have average/below average/poor playoff records?

I wonder if we're visiting the same website, because it's been constant for YEARS.

You claimed that the group of folks defending Smith is largely the SAME group that bashes these other quarterbacks. That's the type of statistical assertion that really should be supported by data. Otherwise, people might think you are full of ****.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So you're saying that people here HAVEN'T bashed Manning, Rivers, Ryan, etc because they have average/below average/poor playoff records?

I wonder if we're visiting the same website, because it's been constant for YEARS.

Does anybody on this site say that they would not take those QBs on this team in a heartbeat and that they suck?

Then what's your point?

[RobBlake]

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

You KNOW that's lying through your teeth.

For the season he has just 38 attempts over 20 yards...22nd.

He is not pushing it down the field. He never has and he never will.

It's like you don't even watching the ******** games, all you do is whine and bitch. You don't care about Chiefs winning football games, you care about Madden stat padding. The chiefs are going to finish the season well over .500, a chance to still clinch the division, and you are crying like a little girl because Alex won't post 4k yards. You look at football as if its checkers, when it is chess.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So you're saying that people here HAVEN'T bashed Manning, Rivers, Ryan, etc because they have average/below average/poor playoff records?

I wonder if we're visiting the same website, because it's been constant for YEARS.

I'm saying that these aren't by and large the same people that have backed Alex Smith.

I've long been one of the loudest "Manning over Brady" guys. I've touted Rivers for years when everyone else hated him. I've never been a huge Ryan fan, but that's not because of his playoff record; I just think he's a little overrated.

And many are in the same boat as I am.

Like I said - I think your thesis is flawed. There are people that slam that group, sure, but that particular group isn't limited to Alex Smith fans, nor are Alex Smith fans by disproportionately a part of that group.

You're trying to create a boogeyman here that doesn't exist.