Andy Reid with Peter King

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BossChief

We are discussing what might grazings during the 2013 season, no?

Of course that includes trig to evaluate potential under changing circumstances.

Dude, there is no ****ing way this team is pushing for the playoffs in 2013 with a rookie QB. There are far too many holes at STARTING positions, let alone questions on the defensive line, offensive line, WR and TE positions.

If the Chiefs win 6 games next year with a rookie QB, I'll be thrilled.

***** ****ed this team. Hard.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dude, there is no ****ing way this team is pushing for the playoffs in 2013 with a rookie QB. There are far too many holes at STARTING positions, let alone questions on the defensive line, offensive line, WR and TE positions.

If the Chiefs win 6 games next year with a rookie QB, I'll be thrilled.

***** ****ed this team. Hard.

11 out of 17 NFL.com guys thought we would win the division in 2012 because of the talent we had.

You thought so, too...as did I.

I think we had the NFLs worst combo of head coach and quarterbacks and that we are going from that to a top 5 coach in the league and will hopefully get good game manager play from our quarterback in his rookie year.

Romeo was Mr. I don't know and Cassel lead the league in turnovers even though he was benched before the halfway point.

I stick by my comment.

If we draft Geno and we field a defense that taps into the potential of the talent on that side of the ball, we will be in the 2013 playoffs.

[okcchief]

Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Ryan Succop missed:

A 40-yard FG to tie against Atlanta.

A 33-yard FG that would have given us a lead against Pittsburgh in the third quarter.

A 27-yard FG to put us up 10-0 on the Browns.

A 43-yard FG to bring us within 1 point of the Colts.

Not to mention one that cost us a playoff spot last year. He's pretty bad when the pressure is on.

[BossChief]

Bowe is a PERFECT WCO receiver. Moeaki is the same type of dual threat tight end that Reid looks for...Reid wanted to draft McCluster...Charles is a better version of Bryant Westbrook...Baldwin can be a deep threat and Breaston is a good possession guy.

I'm not sure how any of those guys wouldn't fit in Andy Reids system, but we shall see.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Bowe is a PERFECT WCO receiver. Moeaki is the same type of dual threat tight end that Reid looks for...Reid wanted to draft McCluster...Charles is a better version of Bryant Westbrook...Baldwin can be a deep threat and Breaston is a good possession guy.

I'm not sure how any of those guys wouldn't fit in Andy Reids system, but we shall see.

Frankly Baldwin sucks and Breaston is expensive for what he does and Moeaki is seriously injury prone.

Also the only WR Reid has ever had in his offense close to Bowe is Owens he's always gone for the speed guys.

My feeling for awhile is they'll take Geno and then a WR at the top of 2 whether that's Robert Woods, DeAndre Hopkins etc, but those would be my 2 favorites if they fall there.

[mcaj22]

"Baldwin can be ____"

my favorite sentence for 2 years now. Can't wait to hear that same cliche at the end of season 3 of the Jon Baldwin failed experiment to give him a free pass

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

"Baldwin can be ____"

my favorite sentence for 2 years now. Can't wait to hear that same cliche at the end of season 3 of the Jon Baldwin failed experiment to give him a free pass

I don't think Baldwin will ever amount to anything but a guy who plays like Randy Moss but has 1% of the talent of Randy Moss.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't think Baldwin will ever amount to anything but a guy who plays like Randy Moss but has 1% of the talent of Randy Moss.

i cant wait for another month of training camp in august of how Jon Baldwin was making 1 handed catches jumping on trampolines over guys in shorts.

joy

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by GoWalrus

It looks like Poe is the homer favorite of choice this offseason.

He has not shown this potential whatsoever.

We're talking about a kid that had all of 9 QB hurries and 0 sacks last season so let's keep things in perspective.

He was pretty impressive for a guy that was learning technique on the fly and came from a small program. I have no problem with him, especially with us moving to more of a 1 gap system that should allow his mobility to shine.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BossChief

He was pretty impressive for a guy that was learning technique on the fly and came from a small program. I have no problem with him, especially with us moving to more of a 1 gap system that should allow his mobility to shine.

Where was this mobility last year? Nowhere to be found. He was impressive on a very small handful of plays last year.

He's nothing at all until he shows a LOT more. He was the Jon Baldwin of NTs last year.

[mcaj22]

i'm glad we are happy with 9 QB hurries and 0 sacks out of our first round draft pick.

that we like clap at that development/production. it's equal to that of a ****ing 4th round pick.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

i'm glad we are happy with 9 QB hurries and 0 sacks out of our first round draft pick.

that we like clap at that development/production. it's equal to that of a ****ing 4th round pick.

The Dontari Poe pick is one of the few good picks Pioli made.

It is absolutely ridiculous for anyone to be this critical of Poe. We all knew the scouting report. We know what position he plays. He played as well as anyone could have expected. A long way to go, but further along than people thought. And his upside is tremendous.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The Dontari Poe pick is one of the few good picks ***** made.

It is absolutely ridiculous for anyone to be this critical of Poe. We all knew the scouting report. We know what position he plays. He played as well as anyone could have expected. A long way to go, but further along than people thought. And his upside is tremendous.

how dare we be critical of Poe when Fletcher Cox, who was picked RIGHT AFTER POE by Andy Reid, had 39 tackles 5.5 sacks and a forced fumble

how dare us want production like that out of OUR first round pick that played the same exact position in college as the guy picked by another team right after him.

Silly me for thinking we could get a first round pick that plays like a first round pick.

How "absolutely" ridiculous.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

how dare we be critical of Poe when Fletcher Cox, who was picked RIGHT AFTER POE by Andy Reid, had 39 tackles 5.5 sacks and a forced fumble

how dare us want production like that out of OUR first round pick that played the same exact position in college as the guy picked by another team right after him.

Silly me for thinking we could get a first round pick that plays like a first round pick.

How "absolutely" ridiculous.

Fletcher Cox plays a 4-3 DT. He is playing pretty much the same position he played in college, and he came in a lot less raw than Poe did from a technique standpoint.

The Nose Tackle is a different position. It's a position that takes a much longer time to learn and isn't going to get you the same sexy statistics as a 4-3 DT.

So yes, in this case, statistics are for losers.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The Dontari Poe pick is one of the few good picks ***** made.

It is absolutely ridiculous for anyone to be this critical of Poe.

It's also ridiculous to say he has game changing potential.

Shit, so does/did Jon Baldwin.

I'll be happy with average NT play from him next year.