Mock/FA 1/26

jonzie04 · 01-26-2015, 01:44 PM

Cut
Hali,Fasano, Devito, Avery, Jenkins, Mays, Walker.

NFI, Restructure
Berry, Bowe

Resign
Houston, Hudson, Parker, D. Harris , Vickerson, Avant, Martin

FAs
T Doug Free, G Orlando Franklin, ILB Rolando Mcclain, TE Lance Kendricks

1 Shaq Thompson DW(Defensive Weapon) Wash
2. Vince Mayle
3. Josh Hardy WR ECU
3 Comp pick Marcus Peters CB Washington
4. Donovan Smith T Penn State
5. Terrance Plummer ILB UCF
5.comp Davante Davis WR UNLV
5.comp CB Josh Shaw USC
6. Darius Kilgo NT Maryland
7. DJ Humphries T Florida
7.OLB Shaquille Riddick WVU

QB Smith, Pryor, Murray
RB Charles, Davis, Thomas, West
FB Sherman
TE Kelce, Kendricks, Harris
LT Fisher, Stephenson
LG Franklin, Fulton
C Hudson, Kush
RG Allen, Fulton
RT Free, Stephenson
WR Bowe, Wilson, Rogers
WR Mayle, Hardy, Avant, Davis

DE Howard, Vickerson
NT Poe, Kilgo
DE Bailey, Catapano
OLB Houston, Martin
ILB DJ, Plummer
ILB Mcclain, JMJ
OLB Ford, Zombo,Riddick
CB Smith, Peters, Gaines, Fleming, Shaw
S Thompson, Abdullah, Parker,

Notes* I think Shaq has pro bowl upside year 1 under sutton playing in berrys 2013 role.

*I think Mayle has just as much upside as white, and parker as a teams #1. Though he's more raw. The idea is for him to step in as the #2 and eventually become the guy.

I tried to completely fix the OL in FA to give us some flexibility in round one. There are some nice WR's in rounds 2-4. If none of the big 3 wr's fall to us, we can take the bpa.

Any comments, notes, ideas, like, hate, too many FA's etc.?

Saccopoo · 01-26-2015, 01:59 PM

Whew...

Shaq Thompson? First round? For the Chiefs? Man...on a team that featured Danny Shelton and Hauoli Kikaha?

In a 34?

I think you are hoping for Ryan Shazier...I don't know if Thompson is that guy. I'd rather go Cody Prewitt vs. a guy like Thompson who doesn't really have experience at the position.

And I too think that Vince Mayle is a ****ing beast. I think he's better than WV's Kevin White right now. I also think that he might be there in the third. Personally, I think that they will have a really good opportunity to snag a pretty solid WR in the third - Dres Anderson, Vince Mayle, Tyler Lockett, Ty Montgomery all would be monumental upgrades and all would fit well in this system in different ways.

jonzie04 · 01-26-2015, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Whew...

Shaq Thompson? First round? For the Chiefs? Man...on a team that featured Danny Shelton and Hauoli Kikaha?

In a 34?

I think you are hoping for Ryan Shazier...I don't know if Thompson is that guy. I'd rather go Cody Prewitt vs. a guy like Thompson who doesn't really have experience at the position.

And I too think that Vince Mayle is a ****ing beast. I think he's better than WV's Kevin White right now. I also think that he might be there in the third. Personally, I think that they will have a really good opportunity to snag a pretty solid WR in the third - Dres Anderson, Vince Mayle, Tyler Lockett, Ty Montgomery all would be monumental upgrades and all would fit well in this system in different ways.

Shaqs a strange pick no doubt
Berry played a role incredibly similar to a 4-3 OLB in 2013. playing in the box, playing man on TEs and backs, covering the flats, blitzing. I think shaq could be even better than berry in that role. I think shaqs just as athletic as shazier. Shazier might have a little more top end speed, buts that's it. In terms of agility, stopping, starting I think Thompson has the edge. Shaq can transition from a backpeddle to a driving forward as well as an elite corner prospect. I think his short area quickness is on par with shazier as well, his closing speed is insane. I think he'll develop some serious man coverage skills due to his agility and drive.

As far as Prewitt goes, I just don't see what you see in the guy.

But I do agree with you on wrs in the third. There will almost certainly be a solid guy there for the taking.

Halfcan · 01-26-2015, 02:48 PM

Two Shaqs in one draft. Sound like the ol' Tank and Turk debacle.

I hope they cut Parker as well. He played like dogshit.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-26-2015, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Two Shaqs in one draft. Sound like the ol' Tank and Turk debacle.

I hope they cut Parker as well. He played like dogshit.

Parker didn't play well at corner but was very, very good at safety.

jonzie04 · 01-26-2015, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Two Shaqs in one draft. Sound like the ol' Tank and Turk debacle.

I hope they cut Parker as well. He played like dogshit.

6

that's pretty funny.

smith11 · 01-27-2015, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Two Shaqs in one draft. Sound like the ol' Tank and Turk debacle.

I hope they cut Parker as well. He played like dogshit.

add Shaquille mason from Georgia tech

given that this month was his birthday I am surprised you don't see any kids named martin (after mlk)

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-26-2015, 03:02 PM

Dorsey is building a young team so signing 31 year old Doug Free doesn't make sense. I can't envision the Chiefs signing McClain, either. I think Franklin will get more money as a tackle than a guard.

Walker is young and doesn't cost much. He played less than expected in 2014 due to the emergence of Bailey and Howard but he was a decent rotational player and likely more reliable than Vickerson.

jonzie04 · 01-26-2015, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dorsey is building a young team so signing 31 year old Doug Free doesn't make sense. I can't envision the Chiefs signing McClain, either. I think Franklin will get more money as a tackle than a guard.

Walker is young and doesn't cost much. He played less than expected in 2014 due to the emergence of Bailey and Howard but he was a decent rotational player and likely more reliable than Vickerson.

that's a valid point about free. I see him as a very nice stop gap player, but you may be right about his age and the direction of this team. Jw, but why don't you think we´'ll bring in McClain?

I agree with Walker being a very nice rotational player. I just think we have another solid rotational guy in catapano, and walkers making a hefty chunk of change. I think that money would be much better spent on a end TE or ILB.

also agree Parker was a solid safety.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-26-2015, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04

that's a valid point about free. I see him as a very nice stop gap player, but you may be right about his age and the direction of this team. Jw, but why don't you think we´'ll bring in McClain?

McClain's first choice will be Dallas. He also has a little issue in Alabama with his $1.5 million dollar home burning down due to arson. With that and his previous two stops, I just can't see him as a Dorsey & Reid kind of player.

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Originally Posted by jonzie04

I agree with Walker being a very nice rotational player. I just think we have another solid rotational guy in catapano, and walkers making a hefty chunk of change. I think that money would be much better spent on a end TE or ILB.

Catapano was a 7th round Ivy Leaguer that has four tackles in 32 games. He missed the entire 2014 season due to concussion and a "mystery" illness. At this point, expecting anything from him is tenuous at best. Plus, cutting Walker only saves $1.75 million, and with league minimum at $1 million, I doubt you'll get much out of a vet to counteract a savings of $750k.

Also, I think the Chiefs will address TE and ILB in the draft.

jonzie04 · 01-27-2015, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

McClain's first choice will be Dallas. He also has a little issue in Alabama with his $1.5 million dollar home burning down due to arson. With that and his previous two stops, I just can't see him as a Dorsey & Reid kind of player.

Dorsey and Reid, kind of player? You seem to think these guys only bring in angels. Reid brought in the biggest drama queen in NFL history in Terell Owens, and a man who had just gotten out of federal prison in Vick. Just in the past 30 days we've brought in duron carter for a look, a known jackass, signed terell pryor who has a rap sheet a mile long, Da'rick rogers, Erin Henderson, etc. And as far as dallas being his first choice goes, who really knows? I havent read anything that suggests he loves Dallas, and dallas is in cap hell right now, and is in a situation where they may be forced to let murray walk.

Catapano was a 7th round Ivy Leaguer that has four tackles in 32 games. He missed the entire 2014 season due to concussion and a "mystery" illness. At this point, expecting anything from him is tenuous at best. Plus, cutting Walker only saves $1.75 million, and with league minimum at $1 million, I doubt you'll get much out of a vet to counteract a savings of $750k.

Also, I think the Chiefs will address TE and ILB in the draft.

The sample size from cat isnt very large, but he's done an excellent job in his limited snaps. he looked great in the chargers game. In 2013 he racked up a sack, two hits, and 9 hurries in 77 pass rushes, the hgihest disruption rate of any of our interior lineman. He was a capable rotational guy as a rookie, and that likely hasn't changed. Walkers set to make 4+m next year, i think it'd be much better to use that money on an ILB.

Dante84 · 01-26-2015, 03:09 PM

Maybe I'm hanging on to blind hope, but with Hali's desire to remain a Chief, regardless of money, makes me think he sticks around.

jonzie04 · 01-26-2015, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DA_T_84

Maybe I'm hanging on to blind hope, but with Hali's desire to remain a Chief, regardless of money, makes me think he sticks around.

I'm kind of on the fence. Kinda depends on how much he'd end up getting paid.

RunKC · 01-26-2015, 05:42 PM

Shaq Thompson seems like he's uncomfortable at ILB. Like he doesn't quite have a feel for it yet. Project player IMO.

I think that Bryan Bulaga will be a guy we make a run for. Idk why. Call it a gut feeling.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-26-2015, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Shaq Thompson seems like he's uncomfortable at ILB. Like he doesn't quite have a feel for it yet. Project player IMO.

I think that Bryan Bulaga will be a guy we make a run for. Idk why. Call it a gut feeling.

I could see them making a run at Bulaga and the guard from Cincy. If they can sign one or both, they'll have lots of options in the draft.

01-26-2015, 01:44 PM	Topic Starter
jonzie04 MVP Join Date: Feb 2014 Casino cash: $5766817	Mock/FA 1/26 Cut Hali,Fasano, Devito, Avery, Jenkins, Mays, Walker. NFI, Restructure Berry, Bowe Resign Houston, Hudson, Parker, D. Harris , Vickerson, Avant, Martin FAs T Doug Free, G Orlando Franklin, ILB Rolando Mcclain, TE Lance Kendricks 1 Shaq Thompson DW(Defensive Weapon) Wash 2. Vince Mayle 3. Josh Hardy WR ECU 3 Comp pick Marcus Peters CB Washington 4. Donovan Smith T Penn State 5. Terrance Plummer ILB UCF 5.comp Davante Davis WR UNLV 5.comp CB Josh Shaw USC 6. Darius Kilgo NT Maryland 7. DJ Humphries T Florida 7.OLB Shaquille Riddick WVU QB Smith, Pryor, Murray RB Charles, Davis, Thomas, West FB Sherman TE Kelce, Kendricks, Harris LT Fisher, Stephenson LG Franklin, Fulton C Hudson, Kush RG Allen, Fulton RT Free, Stephenson WR Bowe, Wilson, Rogers WR Mayle, Hardy, Avant, Davis DE Howard, Vickerson NT Poe, Kilgo DE Bailey, Catapano OLB Houston, Martin ILB DJ, Plummer ILB Mcclain, JMJ OLB Ford, Zombo,Riddick CB Smith, Peters, Gaines, Fleming, Shaw S Thompson, Abdullah, Parker, Notes* I think Shaq has pro bowl upside year 1 under sutton playing in berrys 2013 role. *I think Mayle has just as much upside as white, and parker as a teams #1. Though he's more raw. The idea is for him to step in as the #2 and eventually become the guy. I tried to completely fix the OL in FA to give us some flexibility in round one. There are some nice WR's in rounds 2-4. If none of the big 3 wr's fall to us, we can take the bpa. Any comments, notes, ideas, like, hate, too many FA's etc.?
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2029611	Shaq Thompson seems like he's uncomfortable at ILB. Like he doesn't quite have a feel for it yet. Project player IMO. I think that Bryan Bulaga will be a guy we make a run for. Idk why. Call it a gut feeling. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Noah Gray
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Saccopoo Kindness in words... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Zion Casino cash: $10025483	Whew... Shaq Thompson? First round? For the Chiefs? Man...on a team that featured Danny Shelton and Hauoli Kikaha? In a 34? I think you are hoping for Ryan Shazier...I don't know if Thompson is that guy. I'd rather go Cody Prewitt vs. a guy like Thompson who doesn't really have experience at the position. And I too think that Vince Mayle is a ****ing beast. I think he's better than WV's Kevin White right now. I also think that he might be there in the third. Personally, I think that they will have a really good opportunity to snag a pretty solid WR in the third - Dres Anderson, Vince Mayle, Tyler Lockett, Ty Montgomery all would be monumental upgrades and all would fit well in this system in different ways.
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