Which Chiefs QB do You Dislike the Most???!?!

[rico]

I was at work last night, thinking about how frustrating the Cassel era was and thought to myself, "man, I doubt there has ever been a QB that has started a substantial amount of games for the Chiefs that was despised as much as Matty Melt Cassel.

Then I started to think about it.

We've had to put up with some frustrating, unlikable QB's. I wonder how I would have felt about Todd Blackledge if I were a decade and a half older than I am... I wonder if my disdain for Elvis Grbac would be more prominent, if I weren't an early teenager while he took the reigns.
I figured it'd be interesting to see who is the most despised QB in the history
of the Chiefs, poll-style. I will only include QB's who have started 10+ games for the teams.

I am the most interested in seeing how the old-timers respond to this.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by milkman

So they should have traded up for Johnny Manziel or Paxton Lynch?

Bridgewater > Ford.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Dagnabit

Bridgewater > Ford.

Bridgewater is putting up some pretty mediocre numbers behind a solid O-Line with support from a very good running game.

Personally I think he's overvalued around here.

The one QB that I think they should have invested in is Derek Carr.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by milkman

What?

Tough smart game managers who at the end of the day won't win you a Super Bowl but Smith has more athletic talents.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Tough smart game managers who at the end of the day won't win you a Super Bowl but Smith has more athletic talents.

Both are/were tough, but that's where the comparisons end.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by milkman

So they should have traded up for Johnny Manziel or Paxton Lynch?

I didn't want Manziel, but the Lynch situation does flag the point that the Dorsey/Reid team really does not care at all about drafting a QB high in the draft. Lynch was the QB the Chiefs have arguably scouted the most since 2013, and they did absolutely nothing.

Regardless of whether or not those QBs turn out to be any good, there seems to be a long history of teams who trade up in front of us in the late first round to grab QBs. I'm getting kind of sick of it.

[rico]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Elvis Grbac in a landslide.

Grbac may be the most physically talented player on the list and arguably had the best arm talent. But he was a mouth breather, excuse maker and a whiny little bitch who did not love football.

He turned down $6 million the Ravens offered him 2002 because he didn't have any love for football.

What a complete and utter waste of four years, especially with DT near the end of his career.

Didn't you hate Bill Kenney as well?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by milkman

Bridgewater is putting up some pretty mediocre numbers behind a solid O-Line with support from a very good running game.

Personally I think he's overvalued around here.

The one QB that I think they should have invested in is Derek Carr.

Reid told him he would have drafted him if he didn't already have Alex Smith while Andy was coaching him at the pro bowl.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

I didn't want Manziel, but the Lynch situation does flag the point that the Dorsey/Reid team really does not care at all about drafting a QB high in the draft. Lynch was the QB the Chiefs have arguably scouted the most since 2013, and they did absolutely nothing.

Regardless of whether or not those QBs turn out to be any good, there seems to be a long history of teams who trade up in front of us in the late first round to grab QBs. I'm getting kind of sick of it.

So, in your mind, all that scouting tells you that they should have traded up.

Seems to me that should tell you they just didn't believe he was worth the investment.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Baconeater

Just looking at Matt Cassel made me want to punch him the face.

"Dont blame me for this loss, I graded out perfectly"

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by milkman

Both are/were tough, but that's where the comparisons end.

Both are game mangers who need a top defense and running game to win.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

I didn't want Manziel, but the Lynch situation does flag the point that the Dorsey/Reid team really does not care at all about drafting a QB high in the draft. Lynch was the QB the Chiefs have arguably scouted the most since 2013, and they did absolutely nothing.

Regardless of whether or not those QBs turn out to be any good, there seems to be a long history of teams who trade up in front of us in the late first round to grab QBs. I'm getting kind of sick of it.

Why?

None of those guys ended up worth a shit.

Manziel
Quinn

Maybe Lynch turns out good and I'd have loved to have drafted him, BUT the fact Dorseys guys scouted the shit out of him and didn't make a move tells me they didn't value him that highly and see serious flaws in his game they didn't think they could iron out.

Hopefully, some of that scouting information is utilized by Sutton when we play Denver.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Both are game mangers who need a top defense and running game to win.

How many SBs has Aaron Rodgers won without that kind of support?

Drew Brees?

How many SBs did Peyton Manning win when he put the team on his shoulders?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Why?

None of those guys ended up worth a shit.

Manziel
Quinn

Maybe Lynch turns out good and I'd have loved to have drafted him, BUT the fact Dorseys guys scouted the shit out of him and didn't make a move tells me they didn't value him that highly and see serious flaws in his game they didn't think they could iron out.

Hopefully, some of that scouting information is utilized by Sutton when we play Denver.

Lynch and Bridgewater are about what you can expect from QB talent that will ever be available to the Chiefs now that they seem to have found a knack for consistently finishing with a winning record and making the playoffs. The talent doesn't get much better than that, except for Rodgers. Ironically, that's another QB we got beaten to the punch by a team trading up just in front of us.

If the Chiefs aren't willing to go after those guys because they want something better, then Reid and Dorsey are really no better than King Carl, are they? They pretty much refuse to draft a QB with a high pick.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Lynch and Bridgewater are about what you can expect from QB talent that will ever be available to the Chiefs now that they seem to have found a knack for consistently finishing with a winning record and making the playoffs. The talent doesn't get much better than that, except for Rodgers. Ironically, that's another QB we got beaten to the punch by a team trading up just in front of us.

If the Chiefs aren't willing to go after those guys because they want something better, then Reid and Dorsey are really no better than King Carl, are they? They pretty much refuse to draft a QB with a high pick.

The Luck/RGIII draft was considered the last "can't miss" QB draft, and both of those guys have had problems. There is no perfect candidate, he does not exist.

Therefore, at some point you have take a chance and hope for the best.

Or, you can continue cycling FA trash under the false pretense of "stability".

Let's call it what it is:

Cowardice.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Lynch and Bridgewater are about what you can expect from QB talent that will ever be available to the Chiefs now that they seem to have found a knack for consistently finishing with a winning record and making the playoffs. The talent doesn't get much better than that, except for Rodgers. Ironically, that's another QB we got beaten to the punch by a team trading up just in front of us.

If the Chiefs aren't willing to go after those guys because they want something better, then Reid and Dorsey are really no better than King Carl, are they? They pretty much refuse to draft a QB with a high pick.

The Pack didn't trade up for Rodgers.