I need help fast, guys.

[ImAWalkingCorpse]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Damn. I do not know what others in this thread have told you, but DON'T call the cops on him. He will NEVER forgive you, and might cause him to reject any future help from you.
TALK TO HIM. Ask him if he wants help. A lot of people who are caught up in those kinds of drugs are trapped by them, and would do anything to be able to get off of them, but can't deal with the withdrawls. May be the case may not, but you need to know before doing ANYTHING drastic. Again, Don't attack him. Talk to him. If he wants help get him into a facility.
Start there, and let us know what he says.
Note: He's not gonna be honest with you unless you come to him from a place of logic.
(you're gonna die. You're ruining your life) Try to level with him. Do not preach. Do not bitch him out. He knows what he's doing is wrong.

Looks like it is too late. His brother turned into a thief to fuel his drug habit.

[Superbowltrashcan]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Damn. I do not know what others in this thread have told you, but DON'T call the cops on him. He will NEVER forgive you, and might cause him to reject any future help from you.
TALK TO HIM. Ask him if he wants help. A lot of people who are caught up in those kinds of drugs are trapped by them, and would do anything to be able to get off of them, but can't deal with the withdrawls. May be the case may not, but you need to know before doing ANYTHING drastic. Again, Don't attack him. Talk to him. If he wants help get him into a facility.
Start there, and let us know what he says.
Note: He's not gonna be honest with you unless you come to him from a place of logic.
(you're gonna die. You're ruining your life) Try to level with him. Do not preach. Do not bitch him out. He knows what he's doing is wrong.

This is all well and good except he violated family code when he stole from his family. You have to treat him like a common criminal. If someone else stole $8000 from your mom and came back drugged up looking for more, what would you do? You unfortunately have to suspend the family tie until he decides to honor his side of it. I had to lose my brother for several years and a niece has never come back around due to addictions. Stay strong.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Superbowltrashcan

This is all well and good except he violated family code when he stole from his family. You have to treat him like a common criminal. If someone else stole $8000 from your mom and came back drugged up looking for more, what would you do? You unfortunately have to suspend the family tie until he decides to honor his side of it. I had to lose my brother for several years and a niece has never come back around due to addictions. Stay strong.

Agreed. Didn't know it had gotten that far.

[chagrin]

Tough situation man, sorry to hear about this but turning him in or calling 911 was the best thing, and the right thing, to do. It's time for acknowledgement, accountability and justice (for the money and things he stole)and healing. Addiction is so hard to deal with but as it's already been said, he is past simply being supported for having an addiction. Prayers are with your family.

[bowener]

Guys, I cannot thank you enough for everything that's been said in here. Even stuff that may have been bad or incorrect advice. Just seeing the dialogue between people in here some how cheers me up. I guess, in a way, it makes this whole event more real or normal in a sense... maybe not normal... more human? I don't know. I do know that right now I do not give a damn if he hates me and curses me to hell. Wouldn't bother me in the slightest. What I do know is that that next time I hug my niece and look her in the eyes I can do so knowing I didn't let her down. I didn't let her dad leave, and go off to his death. I am most proud of that.

With that being said, this is going to be hell, and I am going to be the one doing the heavy lifting and shouldering the burden as much as possible. My family is an old family. Mother and father are 65, and our step-father is 73. All have major health issues. I have an older step-brother, who I love dearly, that has CP, and can barely get around on his own now. I am 28, and will be looking after my 32 year old brother the rest of his life or at least I may have to. I know my brother very well, and it will take a god damn miracle for him to stay clean or sober. However, if the insurance company for the jewelry steps in, his primary caretaker will be a warden for several more years.

[Imon Yourside]

Originally Posted by bowener

Guys, I cannot thank you enough for everything that's been said in here. Even stuff that may have been bad or incorrect advice. Just seeing the dialogue between people in here some how cheers me up. I guess, in a way, it makes this whole event more real or normal in a sense... maybe not normal... more human? I don't know. I do know that right now I do not give a damn if he hates me and curses me to hell. Wouldn't bother me in the slightest. What I do know is that that next time I hug my niece and look her in the eyes I can do so knowing I didn't let her down. I didn't let her dad leave, and go off to his death. I am most proud of that.

With that being said, this is going to be hell, and I am going to be the one doing the heavy lifting and shouldering the burden as much as possible. My family is an old family. Mother and father are 65, and our step-father is 73. All have major health issues. I have an older step-brother, who I love dearly, that has CP, and can barely get around on his own now. I am 28, and will be looking after my 32 year old brother the rest of his life or at least I may have to. I know my brother very well, and it will take a god damn miracle for him to stay clean or sober. However, if the insurance company for the jewelry steps in, his primary caretaker will be a warden for several more years.

Be prepared, it may take a LONG time before he will see it's his own fault. Hang in there and stay positive.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by bowener

Guys, I cannot thank you enough for everything that's been said in here. Even stuff that may have been bad or incorrect advice. Just seeing the dialogue between people in here some how cheers me up. I guess, in a way, it makes this whole event more real or normal in a sense... maybe not normal... more human? I don't know. I do know that right now I do not give a damn if he hates me and curses me to hell. Wouldn't bother me in the slightest. What I do know is that that next time I hug my niece and look her in the eyes I can do so knowing I didn't let her down. I didn't let her dad leave, and go off to his death. I am most proud of that.

With that being said, this is going to be hell, and I am going to be the one doing the heavy lifting and shouldering the burden as much as possible. My family is an old family. Mother and father are 65, and our step-father is 73. All have major health issues. I have an older step-brother, who I love dearly, that has CP, and can barely get around on his own now. I am 28, and will be looking after my 32 year old brother the rest of his life or at least I may have to. I know my brother very well, and it will take a god damn miracle for him to stay clean or sober. However, if the insurance company for the jewelry steps in, his primary caretaker will be a warden for several more years.

That's a heavy burden to bear. Make sure that you don't carry it on your own. Talk to people about the stressors involved, even if it is on here.

You have my best.

[ImAWalkingCorpse]

Originally Posted by bowener

Guys, I cannot thank you enough for everything that's been said in here. Even stuff that may have been bad or incorrect advice. Just seeing the dialogue between people in here some how cheers me up. I guess, in a way, it makes this whole event more real or normal in a sense... maybe not normal... more human? I don't know. I do know that right now I do not give a damn if he hates me and curses me to hell. Wouldn't bother me in the slightest. What I do know is that that next time I hug my niece and look her in the eyes I can do so knowing I didn't let her down. I didn't let her dad leave, and go off to his death. I am most proud of that.

With that being said, this is going to be hell, and I am going to be the one doing the heavy lifting and shouldering the burden as much as possible. My family is an old family. Mother and father are 65, and our step-father is 73. All have major health issues. I have an older step-brother, who I love dearly, that has CP, and can barely get around on his own now. I am 28, and will be looking after my 32 year old brother the rest of his life or at least I may have to. I know my brother very well, and it will take a god damn miracle for him to stay clean or sober. However, if the insurance company for the jewelry steps in, his primary caretaker will be a warden for several more years.

I don't envy you at all, I really am sorry you and your family are taking the brunt of your brothers problems.

[griZZly64]

man the last thing you do is call the damn cops.. who the **** offers up that genius advice?

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by griZZly64

man the last thing you do is call the damn cops.. who the **** offers up that genius advice?

People that think that the cops are there to point you in the right direction to overcome your addictions. They're are there to help, right? . If convicted of the assault and theft charges it likely will put him low on the totem pole in recieving even the lowest and cheapest form of drug counseling while incarcerated. Non violent drug offenders recieve preferential placement towards drug counseling in prison.
What is more than likely to happen is that he comes in prison a person on the junk and leaves as a meth cook with new found skills to be Missouri's newest and finest shake n baker.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by RubberSponge

People that think that the cops are there to point you in the right direction to overcome your addictions. They're are there to help, right? . If convicted of the assault and theft charges it likely will put him low on the totem pole in recieving even the lowest and cheapest form of drug counseling while incarcerated. Non violent drug offenders recieve preferential placement towards drug counseling in prison.
What is more than likely to happen is that he comes in prison a person on the junk and leaves as a meth cook with new found skills to be Missouri's newest and finest shake n baker.

You are full of shit. I got adict friends that are in recovery that say they are thankful they were arested and it was the best thing that could have happen to them. It was the only way they would or could keep from sticking a needle in their arm.

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

You are full of shit. I got adict friends that are in recovery that say they are thankful they were arested and it was the best thing that could have happen to them. It was the only way they would or could keep from sticking a needle in their arm.

Oh "the prison was the best thing for them" line is old, tired useless thinking and quite frankly historically proven to be a piss poor form of treatment for drug users.

That is exactly how we have been fighting the drug war for 7 decades. And it DOESN"T WORK. Communities that have been hit hard by drug addiction have found out incarceration for drug users more times than not is counter productive to the overall effectiveness of fighting drug use. The growing popularity of drug courts have proven to be a better legal avenue to fight drug addiction. In the instance of the OP though, the assault charge the nice and friendly police officers wanted to stack likely will kill any chance of him being able recieve treatment through a drug court. Instead he will likely be sent to prison on felony theft and a low class C felony drug possesion, recieve minimal drug counseling, if he doesn't have any disciplinary actions that is. Only to come out in 18 months a felon that has even trouble finding work at a corner store.

Don't get all huffy and puffy like a schoolgirl because the likely reality of the situation doesn't sit well as your "he'll get better in prison" naivete.

[Ace Gunner]

ya this thread is the epitome of statism -- let the state handle what a family should be handling. albeit, on my dime. I'm sorry your fam has a problem, but I am sorrier how how your fam handled it.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

ya this thread is the epitome of statism -- let the state handle what a family should be handling. albeit, on my dime. I'm sorry your fam has a problem, but I am sorrier how how your fam handled it.

That is bull shit. Cannot blame the family for his actions to do drugs or blame them how they handle it. The guy has to own his own responsibility of his actions to do drugs. Are you above any of your family members doing drugs? You are a lier if you say yes.

[cdcox]

First rule of loving an addict:

Take care of yourself first.

Second rule of loving an addict:

Take care of yourself first.