If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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[007]

Wait. Hootie is Hootie again? What the hell?

[Hootie]

if you want to bitch about something, bitch about the fact we got the #1 pick in a draft with no elite QB prospects

that's a fair gripe

but don't complain that our new regime looked at the dogshit we had at QB and decided to make a move to go out and get the best available QB

not happy with the compensation? Cool. Whatever. I get it.

but then go and look at picks 30-50 the last 7 or 8 years and realize we probably traded, at best, a Brandon Flowers and Dexter McCluster for Alex Smith. One is a stud, one is a dud...oh well.

oh wait

I forgot

this is the same fan base who complains about players picked in the 5th-7th rounds

I forget sometimes that you're all dipshits

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Guru

Wait. Hootie is Hootie again? What the hell?

yeah...it was a nice gesture done by Phil

I'd prefer going back to 'The Meat Dragon', but I'm not going to complain

[Hootie]

but BACK TO THE POINT

the main problem I've had with the drafturbators over the year is they just pound their fist and scream things over and over and over and over again so the 'followers', incapable of thought or forming their own opinions, just take those and run and then 80% of the board just ruins every ****ing football thread

GoChiefs LITERALLY tells us why a player is good or why a player sucks SOLELY using PFF...Alex Smith was the 8th best PFF QB in 2011 and was on the same pace in 2012.

...he never liked mentioning that though because it was a direct contradiction of everything he said about Alex Smith

Alex Smith is like a Matt Hasselbeck or Matt Schaub. Yeah, probably not going to win us a Super Bowl.

but ****...what else did we expect this year? Who else was going to be our QB? We have Alex on contract for 2 years. If he sucks or get injured I'm pretty sure we'll move on and try and find another QB. Andy Reid has a pretty good history in this department.

In conclusion; shut the **** up. Get lives. And stop ruining every ****ing thread every ****ing day.

[Jerm]

Matt Hasselbeck should be a Super Bowl winner if Seattle hasn't got horribly ****ed over and screwed in that Super Bowl....

I absolutely believe in the right system and right circumstances Alex Smith can win a Super Bowl. Is it likely? No.....but....could it happen? Yes.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Hootie

if you want to bitch about something, bitch about the fact we got the #1 pick in a draft with no elite QB prospects

that's a fair gripe

but don't complain that our new regime looked at the dogshit we had at QB and decided to make a move to go out and get the best available QB

not happy with the compensation? Cool. Whatever. I get it.

but then go and look at picks 30-50 the last 7 or 8 years and realize we probably traded, at best, a Brandon Flowers and Dexter McCluster for Alex Smith. One is a stud, one is a dud...oh well.

oh wait

I forgot

this is the same fan base who complains about players picked in the 5th-7th rounds

I forget sometimes that you're all dipshits

These are the same guys that think that what Steve Bono and Elvis Grbac did 15 years ago with different players and different coaches is relevant to how Alex Smith will play this year. Geniuses they are not.

[Hootie]

I mean I understand the frustrations...

but Alex Smith is WAY more comparable to Trent Green than Matt ****ing Cassel

[ChiefAshhole20]

This is Supply and Demand people. This offseason had the shittiest supply of quality QB's we have seen in years, and believe it or not, Alex Smith was far and away the best option through either the draft or FA if we want to put the best possible Offense on the field this year.

Even though he isn't elite, you are going to have to pay for the best of the crop, and that's what we did. And don't bitch about the fact that supposedly no other teams offered a 2nd, because if we learned anything from the whole Albert fiasco is that we have no idea what teams are truthfully offering for compensation in trades. For all we know, Arizona and Buffalo were both offering their 2nds, and we outbid them.

Just accept the fact that we drastically improved at both QB and HC, the two most important positions on the field, and enjoy the much more improved product that Clark has supplied us with.

[007]

Originally Posted by Hootie

I mean I understand the frustrations...

but Alex Smith is WAY more comparable to Trent Green than Matt ****ing Cassel

Not sure I would go that far but I sure hope he can at least do some of what Trent did.

I just hope they don't sign him to an extension if he is only mediocre this year. That is my big worry.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Hootie

too chickenshit to try Matt Barkley?!

HELLO

HELLO

MATT BARKELY WENT IN THE 4TH ****ING ROUND. APPARENTLY NO ONE WANTED MATT BARKLEY.

Matt Barkley, as a prospect, apparently sucks ass.

You're pining for Matt Barkley but aren't you the same guy who hated the idea of Kirk Cousins?!

what in the **** is the difference?

Good Christ you guys just bitch to bitch.

Okay, you're out of the drafturbator FF league again. ****ing douche.

Nobody was pining for Matt Barkley. I said we should give him a shot with a measly 3rd round pick. You know, the kind of pick that you've been arguing is ****ing worthless for the past 3 weeks. If all those draft picks are ever good for is shoving them up our own asses, why not try drafting a QB like Matt Barkley with one?

Because Knile Davis is WAAAAAYYY more important than turning over extra stones for possible good QBs.

But you're right. The Chiefs have practically exhausted the draft of its QBs year after year. Ricky Stanzi, Brodie Croyle, and James Killian is enough! We don't need no ****ing Matt Barkleys! That guy dropped to the 4th round! What a ****ing worthless pile of crap.

Sooooooo glad we've got Knile Davis instead! That's way better for this team. Yep. Just Alex, Chase, and Tyler/Ricky. That's the way we want our QBs, and that's how it's gonna stay! Let's never make any plans to see if there's something better out there unless Andrew Luck falls to us in the 7th round, and only then if there isn't a Knile Davis available!

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by SNR

Okay, you're out of the drafturbator FF league again. ****ing douche.

Nobody was pining for Matt Barkley. I said we should give him a shot with a measly 3rd round pick. You know, the kind of pick that you've been arguing is ****ing worthless for the past 3 weeks. If all those draft picks are ever good for is shoving them up our own asses, why not try drafting a QB like Matt Barkley with one?

Because Knile Davis is WAAAAAYYY more important than turning over extra stones for possible good QBs.

But you're right. The Chiefs have practically exhausted the draft of its QBs year after year. Ricky Stanzi, Brodie Croyle, and James Killian is enough! We don't need no ****ing Matt Barkleys! That guy dropped to the 4th round! What a ****ing worthless pile of crap.

Sooooooo glad we've got Knile Davis instead! That's way better for this team. Yep. Just Alex, Chase, and Tyler/Ricky. That's the way we want our QBs, and that's how it's gonna stay! Let's never make any plans to see if there's something better out there unless Andrew Luck falls to us in the 7th round, and only then if there isn't a Knile Davis available!

I do agree with this...def would've took Barkely 100 times out of 100 over Davis...at that pick there's absolutely no reason not to take a chance on him.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by SNR

Okay, you're out of the drafturbator FF league again. ****ing douche.

Nobody was pining for Matt Barkley. I said we should give him a shot with a measly 3rd round pick. You know, the kind of pick that you've been arguing is ****ing worthless for the past 3 weeks. If all those draft picks are ever good for is shoving them up our own asses, why not try drafting a QB like Matt Barkley with one?

Because Knile Davis is WAAAAAYYY more important than turning over extra stones for possible good QBs.

But you're right. The Chiefs have practically exhausted the draft of its QBs year after year. Ricky Stanzi, Brodie Croyle, and James Killian is enough! We don't need no ****ing Matt Barkleys! That guy dropped to the 4th round! What a ****ing worthless pile of crap.

Sooooooo glad we've got Knile Davis instead! That's way better for this team. Yep. Just Alex, Chase, and Tyler/Ricky. That's the way we want our QBs, and that's how it's gonna stay! Let's never make any plans to see if there's something better out there unless Andrew Luck falls to us in the 7th round, and only then if there isn't a Knile Davis available!

if we would have taken Tyler Bray with that 4th round pick everyone would have been all fine and dandy

guess what

Tyler Bray is a Chief.

so just pretend we took him in the 3rd and be happy

[Hootie]

and why waste a pick on Matt Barkley when, drafting him there, you pretty much guarantee him a roster spot on a roster where we would be just fine next year carrying only 2 QB's?

so to answer your question...that's why we didn't take Barkley with a "measly" 3rd round pick...

why waste a pick on a guy who would be fringe roster worthy in the 3rd round?

I've already stated that the thing 3rd-5th round draft picks are MOSTLY good for is they are cheap roster fillers for special teamers and perhaps fringe starters...or if you get lucky you land a Brandon Carr or Jared Allen (1 in 50s)...

no need in wasting that on a QB who apparently wasn't high on your draft board

[The Bad Guy]

You all can't be serious with the argument being "he's a backup".

I can't blame Harbaugh for going with Kaep, I would too, but Alex Smith did not lose his job last year to Damon Huard here.

He's lightyears ahead of Cassel, so I don't see that comparison at all. If you've watched football the last 2 years, and remove the completed hatred over a player that hasn't played a snap here yet, you could probably see it too. He's not a slight upgrade over Cassel.

I wasn't thrilled initially with the trade, but what do I have to lose giving this at least a shot? The 2 guys I wanted here more than anyone I'm going to flame the **** out of before a real game is played?

I'm with Hootie. Last year was a ****ing atrocity. We didn't have a lead for 9 weeks, and the "let's suck for a draft pick" has resulted in us picking high in some of the worst drafts ever.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by SNR

According to Reid and Dorsey, 8-8 is "winning now.

Link?

Never mind. I know there's no link to that

Which trade compensation would you have preferred?

a) A 2013 2nd plus a 2014 4th that escalates to a 3rd if the Chiefs double their wins and go 4-12.

b) A 2013 2nd plus a 2014 3rd that escalates to a 2nd if the Chiefs go 8-8.

c) A 2013 2nd plus a 2014 2nd that escalates to a 1st if the Chiefs win the Super Bowl.

I assume that you and BossChief find (c) the most attractive because of what you think it says about Andy Reid's aspirations for the 2014 season, right? You guys are real geniuses.