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Old 11-23-2012, 01:06 PM   #1
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Don't want to sound like a homer, but get a good gm, and kansas city is an ideal landing spot. Good solid core talent, tons of cap space, good enough flexibility to flex schemes, and ability to land a strong rookie qb.

All the other teams have problems. I'd rather build around geno than foles. I wouldn't want to work for a.j. Smith or Jerry jones let alone for a team starting to lose its identity. Jets and panthers have way too much drama. wouldn't want to work for mike brown. Minnesota won't be available.

Strangely, the team I'd worry about is Cleveland. Ascending team and an owner really committed to winning. Talent level there is pretty similar to kc.
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:11 PM   #2
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Don't want to sound like a homer, but get a good gm, and kansas city is an ideal landing spot. Good solid core talent, tons of cap space, good enough flexibility to flex schemes, and ability to land a strong rookie qb.

All the other teams have problems. I'd rather build around geno than foles. I wouldn't want to work for a.j. Smith or Jerry jones let alone for a team starting to lose its identity. Jets and panthers have way too much drama. wouldn't want to work for mike brown. Minnesota won't be available.

Strangely, the team I'd worry about is Cleveland. Ascending team and an owner really committed to winning. Talent level there is pretty similar to kc.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see this team having a solid core of talent. Hali, Houston, DJ, Albert, Charles, Flowers and Berry, but that talent has been massively overblown.
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:18 PM   #3
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Maybe it's just me, but I don't see this team having a solid core of talent. Hali, Houston, DJ, Albert, Charles, Flowers and Berry, but that talent has been massively overblown.
When I think of core talent, I'm talking foundational stuff. We have young players and most of our starters are solid starters. Remember, no team has 22 star players. We have a good running game, a solid offensive line, good pass rushers, solid lbs and secondary. If we keep bowe we have a solid wr corps. We just need to plug in better coaches, a qb who can make everyone else better, make slight adjustments to the d line preferably to move to 1-gap. Very easy changes to make in one offseason.
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:21 PM   #4
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When I think of core talent, I'm talking foundational stuff. We have young players and most of our starters are solid starters. Remember, no team has 22 star players. We have a good running game, a solid offensive line, good pass rushers, solid lbs and secondary. If we keep bowe we have a solid wr corps. We just need to plug in better coaches, a qb who can make everyone else better, make slight adjustments to the d line preferably to move to 1-gap. Very easy changes to make in one offseason.
we have one of the worst secondaries in the NFL what drugs are you on
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:01 PM   #5
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While the popular choice is SD, the smart choice is KC. Why?

Any person on CP, drafting any first round QB, and picking average in the draft will have a 7-9 team next year. After a 2-14 record in 2012, the new HC will look like coach of the year. We have the talent (except at the QB position) to be a 9-7 team. Having a last place schedule and a top pick in each round, the new HC will be a near shoo in for HC of the year.
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:12 PM   #6
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Plus it looks like his father was an Asst. Coach with the Chiefs at some point in time.

EDIT: His father was Asst. HC/DB coach in 2000.
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:30 PM   #8
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you have to a delusional homer if you cant see a new coach and GM will bring a massive turnover.

new FS
new CBs (yes plural)
new D-line
new O-line
new WRs
new RBs
new TEs
etc
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:33 PM   #9
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you have to a delusional homer if you cant see a new coach and GM will bring a massive turnover.

new FS
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new D-line
new O-line
new WRs
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new TEs
etc
Not so sure about a massive turnover on the O-line or at RB. TE maybe, I suppose the new regime keeps Brokeaki, cuts Maneri and Boss, and brings in 2 new guys.
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:35 PM   #10
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Not so sure about a massive turnover on the O-line or at RB. TE maybe, I suppose the new regime keeps Brokeaki, cuts Maneri and Boss, and brings in 2 new guys.
and they will absolutely cut turds like Abe Elam and bring in some real FS safety depth unlike Pioli that god damn idiot not addressing any safety depth or CB depth besides Stanford Dishrout and another crap slow secondary player from Alabama that never even saw the field this year
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:37 PM   #11
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and they will absolutely cut turds like Abe Elam and bring in some real FS safety depth unlike Pioli that god damn idiot not addressing any safety depth or CB depth besides Stanford Dishrout and another crap slow secondary player from Alabama that never even saw the field this year
Most certainly.
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:43 PM   #12
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you have to a delusional homer if you cant see a new coach and GM will bring a massive turnover.

new FS
new CBs (yes plural)
new D-line
new O-line
new WRs
new RBs
new TEs
etc
Again. Over dramatic.

We need a new free safety but this one of the least important priorities for a football team.

Multiple CBs? Give me a break. Flowers and arenas are solid.
Our oline is fine -- they were great protecting orton in even an average scheme.
We don't need new wrs. Bowe, breaston, mccluster is a solid enough combo for a qb.
We don't need new rbs, we need a qb who is going to get defenders from stacking the box and playing 15 in.
We don't need new tight ends. Boss and moeaki are more than adequate.

This is the overreaction I'm talking about. A year ago, we said we were a qb and a nose tackle away from being serious contenders. Suddenly, we need an overhaul. No we don't. We need better coaching and a qb who improves everyone around him. Yes, we can upgrade those positions above, but we aren't going to lose super bowls because moeaki and Lewis aren't pro bowlers.
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If I'm phoning it in and worried about me more than the team San Diego. If I'm hungry and still want blood, KC (lots of talent just no direction and most likely a QB to groom and build an offense around) DAL (Jerry is prolly a PITA to work for but son wants to win) CINCY (talent to work with)
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:39 PM   #14
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no the secondary was fine when it was

Berry
Carr
Flowers
Arenas
McGraw
Lewis

2 of those guys arent here anymore and they (Pioli) has done an awful job at replacing talent

as of right now we dont have a starting caliber #2 NFL CB. If you think Javier Arenas or Jalil Brown are a #2 CB in the NFL you are a dumb homer
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:45 PM   #15
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no the secondary was fine when it was

Berry
Carr
Flowers
Arenas
McGraw
Lewis

2 of those guys arent here anymore and they (Pioli) has done an awful job at replacing talent

as of right now we dont have a starting caliber #2 NFL CB. If you think Javier Arenas or Jalil Brown are a #2 CB in the NFL you are a dumb homer
Losing McGraw did nothing except hurt our safety depth.

Losing Carr did not turn us from a strong secondary to one of the worst in the league.

You replace Carr in the offseason with somebody who is at least a solid starter. Not the dramatic situation you paint it to be. Replacing Kendrick Lewis would be nice, but it's not critical.
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