Chiefs Analyzing Tyreek Hill's improbable tying TD - Page 6

RunKC · 12-01-2016, 11:40 AM

So I watched NFL films version of this game and got a few gif's. While watching this, it really made me realize how crazy and fortunate we were on the Tyreek Hill tying TD play.
Looking more in depth revealed some important (even critical) details:

1. Roby should have been called for PI. He hit Hill's helmet and grabbed his left shoulder area. I honestly have no idea how Hill caught this ball.
Roby flies over him and nearly bats the ball but barely misses. I don't know how the hell Hill saw the ball and grabbed it. It was a low pass with Roby right in his line of vision along with his head being hit. It's incredible that he caught this ball in the first place, but it was actually a good thing that this happened bc of where the ball was when Hill had control, thus the overturn of the call. Here's a few gifs showing this:

2. I didn't realize until today that Denver's DL Jared Crick actually tipped the ball. The ball was barely low enough and had enough velocity to make it to Hill without being batted away by Roby.

I don't think this pass is complete without the tip. It looks like it would have been higher and Roby would have got it. Another crazy circumstance that went our way.

3. Finally, seeing the entire play unfold, it was obvious that this was a designed 1 read to Hill. Alex looked at Hill the entire time from the time the ball was snapped.
Look at the bottom. Kelce is wide ****ing open. He clearly beat Darian Stewart by at least 2 steps. It wasn't even close. It would have been as easy TD.

The bottom routes by Kelce and Wilson were basically the exact play design Seattle ran when they lost the SB. That's a damn hard route to stop, especially against Kelce.

It worked and we won, but I really wish Alex would have changed Andy's play design and looked to Kelce. Everyone knew it was a blitz, however Kelce was by far the biggest matchup for us pre-snap.

Red Dawg · 12-01-2016, 06:04 PM

That has been Smith all year. Miss the wide open guy. When tried to throw sideway to West earler in the drive Kelce basicly faked his block and was open all
day but Smith chucked it towards West instead of letting the play develope. He makes up his mind so fast he misses guys every game.

scho63 · 12-01-2016, 06:26 PM

Aside from the fact that Alex is gaining NO YARDS running the ball this year, he is missing wide open receivers 2-3 times a game.

Spott · 12-01-2016, 07:28 PM

I hate to say it, but the refs were on the ball on that play. Not only did they review the play and make a tough call on the road that was the correct one, but they also had the balls to go against the NFL bylaws by making a call that goes against the

. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they saw the tip and that was the reason that they didn't call PI.

Chiefshrink · 12-01-2016, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Thankfully he caught it

Yes, because if it was incomplete then to many others points about Kelce being wide open all of the KC fan base would be up AS and Reid's ass STILL TO THIS MOMENT !!!

Chiefshrink · 12-01-2016, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

Aside from the fact that Alex is gaining NO YARDS running the ball this year, he is missing wide open receivers 2-3 times a game.

PTSD man. He is not used to it.

But to your point his legs might be the key this weekend against the Birds.

Chiefshrink · 12-01-2016, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry

I personally hate everything Skip Bayless and i have never liked Michael Lombardi.. That said Lombardi said something the show that I can get down with... high praise from a former front office guy

"Tyreek Hill is a better Percy Harvin." — @mlombardifoxtv on the Chiefs' standout rookie pic.twitter.com/x48bAUEkp4
— UNDISPUTED (@undisputed) November 28, 2016

Tyreek has a muscled physique that gives him power and you are not going to arm tackle this guy either. And even better Tyreek has not shown that he is a DIVA just yet like Harvin did. Hopefully "The Freak's" character continues on the straight and narrow.

**Easy 6** · 12-01-2016, 08:21 PM

Tyreek Hill is a faster Steve Smith, he is going to push for #1 duties very soon

Forget about height... this kid plays much bigger than he is, runs solid routes, has great hands, and of course has speed coming out of his ears

Dorsey crushed a homer out of Kauffman on this pick

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 12-01-2016, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Also, since he locks his front leg a little and it was a 3-step drop, the ball will come out just a heartbeat quicker and with a tick more velocity to his left.

Hadn't really thought about the mechanics of his feet there, but the short drop and bang/bang timing may have made the left side the best side in the event he gets the same look in both directions. If he goes right, he has to reset at the back of his drop to take his left foot back over his right and fire. It's just a little more cumbersome.

Not a big deal in the grand scheme but when your look is the same both directions, its just one more consideration.

Yea he does that goofy locked leg in extension. Which would explain his preference to follow thru to the left. I think he tried to correct this a few years back but didn't make much progress with it. Hard to break old habits

KChiefs1 · 12-01-2016, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Yep. We essentially lost the Tampa Bay game on a one read play.

Yep

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12-01-2016, 11:40 AM
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2269611	Analyzing Tyreek Hill's improbable tying TD So I watched NFL films version of this game and got a few gif's. While watching this, it really made me realize how crazy and fortunate we were on the Tyreek Hill tying TD play. Looking more in depth revealed some important (even critical) details: 1. Roby should have been called for PI. He hit Hill's helmet and grabbed his left shoulder area. I honestly have no idea how Hill caught this ball. Roby flies over him and nearly bats the ball but barely misses. I don't know how the hell Hill saw the ball and grabbed it. It was a low pass with Roby right in his line of vision along with his head being hit. It's incredible that he caught this ball in the first place, but it was actually a good thing that this happened bc of where the ball was when Hill had control, thus the overturn of the call. Here's a few gifs showing this: 2. I didn't realize until today that Denver's DL Jared Crick actually tipped the ball. The ball was barely low enough and had enough velocity to make it to Hill without being batted away by Roby. I don't think this pass is complete without the tip. It looks like it would have been higher and Roby would have got it. Another crazy circumstance that went our way. 3. Finally, seeing the entire play unfold, it was obvious that this was a designed 1 read to Hill. Alex looked at Hill the entire time from the time the ball was snapped. Look at the bottom. Kelce is wide ****ing open. He clearly beat Darian Stewart by at least 2 steps. It wasn't even close. It would have been as easy TD. The bottom routes by Kelce and Wilson were basically the exact play design Seattle ran when they lost the SB. That's a damn hard route to stop, especially against Kelce. It worked and we won, but I really wish Alex would have changed Andy's play design and looked to Kelce. Everyone knew it was a blitz, however Kelce was by far the biggest matchup for us pre-snap.
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Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $4772858	That has been Smith all year. Miss the wide open guy. When tried to throw sideway to West earler in the drive Kelce basicly faked his block and was open all day but Smith chucked it towards West instead of letting the play develope. He makes up his mind so fast he misses guys every game. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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scho63 Politically Incorrect Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $2791110	Aside from the fact that Alex is gaining NO YARDS running the ball this year, he is missing wide open receivers 2-3 times a game. __________________ *"The only difference between sex for free and sex for money is that sex for free costs you a WHOLE LOT more!"* ~Redd Foxx~ ~~2018 2019 2020 20212022 2023~~ 2024 Adopt a Chief - Clark Hunt and Brett Veach "The men who drafted Patrick Mahomes"
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12-01-2016, 07:28 PM	#78
Spott Court Jester Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Orlando Casino cash: $3102400	I hate to say it, but the refs were on the ball on that play. Not only did they review the play and make a tough call on the road that was the correct one, but they also had the balls to go against the NFL bylaws by making a call that goes against the . I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they saw the tip and that was the reason that they didn't call PI.
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12-01-2016, 08:21 PM	#82
Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $3747775	Tyreek Hill is a faster Steve Smith, he is going to push for #1 duties very soon Forget about height... this kid plays much bigger than he is, runs solid routes, has great hands, and of course has speed coming out of his ears Dorsey crushed a homer out of Kauffman on this pick
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