Football The much needed wake-the-****-up slap.

Wallcrawler · 11-17-2013, 11:13 PM

Nobody had @Denver as being a win anyway. It doesn't make the Chiefs any less good for losing @Denver than it does when Denver drops one in KC. Denver and KC are tough places for road reams to play.

With the loss, the Chiefs go to 9-1. However, now it is glaringly obvious just how bad the offense needs improvement, and work, in ALL areas. Playcalling, execution, and decisionmaking.

Andy Reid no longer has the "W" to brush off any criticisms about the offensive performance. This offense is quite honestly, a dumpster fire. When 80% of your passes don't go further than 10 yards past the line of scrimmage, that's a fundamental ****ing problem through either scheme, or lack of ability, or both. No offense that has its sights set on a championship runs such a conservative, low production passing attack.

There were shots downfield in this game, yeah. However, they were the first time all season such consistent shots were taken and clearly it is not something that this Chiefs offense is comfortable with, or particularly good at.

This defense is for real. They held an offense that averages 42 points per game to 27, and gave our offense PLENTY of chances to get the lead in this game, including multiple 3 and outs against Manning and also securing a turnover inside the Denver 20 yard line down by only 3 points.

The offense is the weak link. The conservative bullshit has got to go. Its nice to never turn the football over, but it is NOT nice to never score any points. Alex needs to turn it loose, and if he cant produce, move aside.

No risk, no reward. You need look no further than Alex Smith's passing stats, TD/INT in particular to see that.

Reid needs to take a long look in the mirror as a playcaller. He has not done a good job at all this season. Brad Childress has had great success in calling offense in his career in his time with Minnesota, and Doug Pederson is a former Quarterback. Perhaps it is time to give one of these guys a shot and see if the offense doesn't produce a little more, as they would be hard pressed to do worse with an offense that struggles to put up 17 points.

This was as good a time as any for this reality check to happen. How Andy Reid and Alex Smith respond to this will define what this team will ultimately be this season.

**TribalElder** · 11-17-2013, 11:16 PM

Too bad we might have to go back there in January now if we are unlucky

ClevelandBronco · 11-17-2013, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Nobody had @Denver as being a win anyway.

You missed some shit around here this week.

**Rausch** · 11-17-2013, 11:17 PM

We didn't play our game.

We didn't play to go after him. We didn't pressure him.

We played not to give up the big play.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid...

**cdcox** · 11-17-2013, 11:18 PM

We were awake. This is what we are. A good team but not a contender for a SB.

Planetman · 11-17-2013, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

You missed some shit around here this week.

Yeah I gotta agree with that.

DaWolf · 11-17-2013, 11:18 PM

The offense isn't changing this year. It is what it is...

**Bugeater** · 11-17-2013, 11:20 PM

Pete isn't all that disappointed.

**Rausch** · 11-17-2013, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf

The offense isn't changing this year. It is what it is...

Exactly.

We win off turnovers, defensive pts, and QB pressure.

To play a conservative D gameplan takes away all that...

stevieray · 11-17-2013, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

We were awake. This is what we are. A good team but not a contender for a SB.

and that should be expected in Dorsey and Reids first year....

It's one game...the season is far from over.

unlurking · 11-17-2013, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

We didn't play our game.

We didn't play to go after him. We didn't pressure him.

We played not to give up the big play.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid...

Bullshit. Our defense held them to the fewest points all year. Our offense choked.

Planetman · 11-17-2013, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Pete isn't all that disappointed.

pete also eats lead paint and huffs model airplane glue.

Wallcrawler · 11-17-2013, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

We didn't play our game.

We didn't play to go after him. We didn't pressure him.

We played not to give up the big play.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid...

Youre focusing on the Defense. This loss is not on our Defense.

Blaming this loss on our defense is like Dick Vermiel blaming our offense for losing the no-punt bowl against the Colts, while not acknowledging the absolutely horrific performance on the other side of the football.

Offense turned the football over inside the Denver 20. They failed to convert 3 times from the 2 yard line and settled for 3. Multiple abortions in the disguise of drives for the Chiefs offense.

We held the Juggernaut of the NFL to 27 points, when they average 42. 28 points would have won this game. That's not a tall order for an offense in today's NFL.

texaschiefsfan · 11-17-2013, 11:23 PM

Denver handed us the ball one time and we didn't take advantage. Captain Obvious told me we needed more turnovers. Hard to do without any pressure on the QB, however.

**Rausch** · 11-17-2013, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking

Bullshit. Our defense held them to the fewest points all year. Our offense choked.

That doesn't matter.

You understand that, right? Holding Denver down doesn't matter if we don't score over 21.

THE DEFENSE HAD TO CREATE POINTS.

HAD TO.

There was absolutely no chance of winning this game without turnovers, sacks, and winning field position...

11-17-2013, 11:13 PM
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $4212912	The much needed wake-the--up slap. Nobody had @Denver as being a win anyway. It doesn't make the Chiefs any less good for losing @Denver than it does when Denver drops one in KC. Denver and KC are tough places for road reams to play. With the loss, the Chiefs go to 9-1. However, now it is glaringly obvious just how bad the offense needs improvement, and work, in ALL areas. Playcalling, execution, and decisionmaking. Andy Reid no longer has the "W" to brush off any criticisms about the offensive performance. This offense is quite honestly, a dumpster fire. When 80% of your passes don't go further than 10 yards past the line of scrimmage, that's a fundamental ****ing problem through either scheme, or lack of ability, or both. No offense that has its sights set on a championship runs such a conservative, low production passing attack. There were shots downfield in this game, yeah. However, they were the first time all season such consistent shots were taken and clearly it is not something that this Chiefs offense is comfortable with, or particularly good at. This defense is for real. They held an offense that averages 42 points per game to 27, and gave our offense PLENTY of chances to get the lead in this game, including multiple 3 and outs against Manning and also securing a turnover inside the Denver 20 yard line down by only 3 points. The offense is the weak link. The conservative bullshit has got to go. Its nice to never turn the football over, but it is NOT nice to never score any points. Alex needs to turn it loose, and if he cant produce, move aside. No risk, no reward. You need look no further than Alex Smith's passing stats, TD/INT in particular to see that. Reid needs to take a long look in the mirror as a playcaller. He has not done a good job at all this season. Brad Childress has had great success in calling offense in his career in his time with Minnesota, and Doug Pederson is a former Quarterback. Perhaps it is time to give one of these guys a shot and see if the offense doesn't produce a little more, as they would be hard pressed to do worse with an offense that struggles to put up 17 points. This was as good a time as any for this reality check to happen. How Andy Reid and Alex Smith respond to this will define what this team will ultimately be this season.
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DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	The offense isn't changing this year. It is what it is...
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11-17-2013, 11:23 PM	#14
texaschiefsfan Veteran Join Date: Sep 2011 Casino cash: $10004905	Denver handed us the ball one time and we didn't take advantage. Captain Obvious told me we needed more turnovers. Hard to do without any pressure on the QB, however.
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