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Old 04-23-2007, 08:40 AM  
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Pretty alarmist, IMO, but possible.

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Old 02-15-2011, 08:35 AM   #2116
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This is just the stutterstep, 1 step downwards and 2 steps upwards. The trend will continue upwards.
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Old 02-15-2011, 09:04 AM   #2117
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I scan the headlines on Google news and yesterday there was "Unease in Middle East could lead to larger increases in oil prices". Your post was a nice surprise.
Crude prices jumped when the Egyptian revolt began (for good reason) but have since dropped due to the peaceful resolution.
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Old 02-21-2011, 09:31 AM   #2118
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:28 AM   #2119
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Up to $3.15 here. This is ****ing bullshit.
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:32 AM   #2120
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The surge today is the result of the unrest in Libya, FWIW.
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:36 AM   #2121
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The surge today is the result of the unrest in Libya, FWIW.
Yeah, whatever, it's just another excuse to gouge us. Same old song and dance.
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:42 AM   #2122
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Yeah, whatever, it's just another excuse to gouge us. Same old song and dance.
Libya is a major exporter of crude. It's not an excuse.
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:44 AM   #2123
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Yeah, whatever, it's just another excuse to gouge us. Same old song and dance.
Exactly. Libya does produce a fair amount of oil, but it's not nearly enough to justify a large spike because of civil unrest.
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:44 AM   #2124
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Exactly. Libya does produce a fair amount of oil, but it's not nearly enough to justify a large spike because of civil unrest.
Yes, it is.
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:51 AM   #2125
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Yes, it is.
They are an OPEC nation right? So if they export something like 80,000 barrels a day to the US, and they have all this bullshit going on, then it stands to reason that it IS a good reason for this spike...

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Old 02-21-2011, 11:53 AM   #2126
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They are an OPEC nation right? So if they export something like 80,000 barrels a day to the US, and they have all this bullshit going on, then it stands to reason that it IS a good reason for this spike...

...sucks...
Yes, they are member of OPEC. They export about 1.5 million barrels per day. Worldwide spare capacity is ~5 million barrels, so it's pretty easy to see why even the prospect of them throttling exports would spook the market.
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Yes, it is.
They are 11th in the world circa 2006. The top 15 countries, excluding Libya, exported 36.73 million barrels/day. Libya exported 1.52.

So, even if we assumed that no other countries in the world exported oil (which is false) that represents about 4% of the top 15 supply.
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:55 AM   #2128
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They are 11th in the world circa 2006. The top 15 countries, excluding Libya, exported 36.73 million barrels/day. Libya exported 1.52.

So, even if we assumed that no other countries in the world exported oil (which is false) that represents about 4% of the top 15 supply.
See above.
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:56 AM   #2129
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See above.
Which still leaves you a sizable spare capacity even if they were completely shut down, which they won't, and it assumes that no other countries would pick up the slack.

It's another bullshit reason to gouge people, just like the speculative bubble in 2008 when supply was way up and demand was down, yet prices went to their highest in 30 years.

This is all based on the bullshit of selling an inelastic resource as a physical commodity with futures. If you buy up enough futures, you pretty much guarantee the price to go up. Exploit any confidence tremor, and bid them ever-higher.
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