Chiefs Todd McShay Mock Draft - Page 8

Hoover · 12-12-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Yes it is conceivable that even a new GM wouldn’t take a QB with the pick. Pioli didn’t in 2009 and we needed one then too.

Pioli addressed the QB situation before the 2009 draft, it just didn't work out.

htismaqe · 12-12-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Yes it is conceivable that even a new GM wouldn’t take a QB with the pick. Pioli didn’t in 2009 and we needed one then too.

That was the #3 pick, not the #1 pick.

If we would have had the #1 pick in 2009, Matthew Stafford would be our QB right now.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-12-2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

You know, we all joke around and stuff. But do people realize that the chances that we DON'T draft a QB with our first round pick are kind of up there? Depending on who is our GM, yes, but even with a new GM I could us passing on selecting a QB with our pick, whether it's #1 overall or not.

Whoever the GM is, he better try like hell to trade down if they do not want to take a QB #1.

Taking a DT or ILB #1 would piss me off to no end.

Chiefs Pantalones · 12-12-2012, 01:32 PM

I'm not saying I think that drafting a QB high in the draft is stupid, I agree with drafting one. It should have been done decades ago. I'm just trying to be devil's advocate here. As Chiefs fans we all know that what is obvious doesn't always go hand in hand with our team.

Hoover · 12-12-2012, 01:36 PM

Does anyone remember those draft commercials that showed the Texans without an offensive line or something like that. We need one without a QB...

I don't understand why everyone is so down on Geno. People were down on McNabb too, and I'd love to draft a player like that.

-King- · 12-12-2012, 01:38 PM

That's a brutal top 5

Hootie · 12-12-2012, 01:39 PM

We take anything at #1 that isn't a QB and I'm done.

htismaqe · 12-12-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

We take anything at #1 that isn't a QB and I'm done.

Yep.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-12-2012, 01:42 PM

If Pioli is here next year, he trades for Alex Smith, and drafts Star or Teo #1.

True Fans ejaculate

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-12-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

If Pioli is here next year, he trades for Alex Smith, and drafts Star or Teo #1.

True Fans ejaculate

Hoover · 12-12-2012, 01:48 PM

There is nobody to trade for like 2009. In 2009, getting Cassel was a big deal, and we got him for a steal. That move and the contract that followed was a joke. There isn't a "Matt Cassel" out there this year. Where is the backup who is lighting the world on fire that would command a trade. Frankly if they want to sign Alex Smith to a two year deal I'm fine with that so long as we drafted a QB in the 1st round. Like it or not, this team needs multiple QBs.

Hoover · 12-12-2012, 01:50 PM

And if we were not to draft a QB (which would be stupid IMO), I'd rather draft a CB or DE instead of a ILB, which isn't a big need. We can upgrade ILB in FA or in the middle of the draft.

htismaqe · 12-12-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

And if we were not to draft a QB (which would be stupid IMO), I'd rather draft a CB or DE instead of a ILB, which isn't a big need. We can upgrade ILB in FA or in the middle of the draft.

There's isn't a CB or DE really worth the #1 overall pick either. MAYBE Damontre Moore at DE or Milliner at CB but that's about it.

Deberg_1990 · 12-12-2012, 02:00 PM

Looks like 2008 was the last time a QB did not go #1 overall.

IN retrospect, Matt Ryan should have been, because Miami selected Jake Long over him and where has that gotten them?

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-12-2012, 02:00 PM

By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com

1. Kansas City: Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

My take: We all know the Chiefs need a quarterback badly and we all know there are no great quarterback choices available at the top of the draft. So, this pick works. He would be another fine player on a potentially good defense. Perhaps the Chiefs could find a bridge veteran quarterback and take someone like North Carolina State’s Mike Glennon in the second round.

ESPN just trolling now.

12-12-2012, 01:32 PM	#4
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $7888717	I'm not saying I think that drafting a QB high in the draft is stupid, I agree with drafting one. It should have been done decades ago. I'm just trying to be devil's advocate here. As Chiefs fans we all know that what is obvious doesn't always go hand in hand with our team. __________________ Don't be fooled by my username, I'm white.
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12-12-2012, 01:36 PM	#5
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1508179	Does anyone remember those draft commercials that showed the Texans without an offensive line or something like that. We need one without a QB... I don't understand why everyone is so down on Geno. People were down on McNabb too, and I'd love to draft a player like that.
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-King- ▓▓▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▓▓ Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $2335743	That's a brutal top 5 __________________ 🏁
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	We take anything at #1 that isn't a QB and I'm done.
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BigMeatballDave GBM 8-12-15 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dayton, Oh. Casino cash: $10052154	If Pioli is here next year, he trades for Alex Smith, and drafts Star or Teo #1. True Fans ejaculate
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12-12-2012, 01:48 PM	#11
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1508179	There is nobody to trade for like 2009. In 2009, getting Cassel was a big deal, and we got him for a steal. That move and the contract that followed was a joke. There isn't a "Matt Cassel" out there this year. Where is the backup who is lighting the world on fire that would command a trade. Frankly if they want to sign Alex Smith to a two year deal I'm fine with that so long as we drafted a QB in the 1st round. Like it or not, this team needs multiple QBs.
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12-12-2012, 01:50 PM	#12
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1508179	And if we were not to draft a QB (which would be stupid IMO), I'd rather draft a CB or DE instead of a ILB, which isn't a big need. We can upgrade ILB in FA or in the middle of the draft.
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12-12-2012, 02:00 PM	#14
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3864454	Looks like 2008 was the last time a QB did not go #1 overall. IN retrospect, Matt Ryan should have been, because Miami selected Jake Long over him and where has that gotten them? __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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12-12-2012, 02:00 PM	#15
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3536009	By Bill Williamson \| ESPN.com 1. Kansas City: Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah My take: We all know the Chiefs need a quarterback badly and we all know there are no great quarterback choices available at the top of the draft. So, this pick works. He would be another fine player on a potentially good defense. Perhaps the Chiefs could find a bridge veteran quarterback and take someone like North Carolina State’s Mike Glennon in the second round. ESPN just trolling now.
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