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Old 02-03-2016, 02:24 PM   Topic Starter
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Talks with Eric Berry for extension 'ramping up'


Per Ian Rapoport.

To the few out there who think we don't need this guy for a good price, happy to see that the front office is of course on the right side.
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Old 02-03-2016, 02:28 PM   #2
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Old 02-03-2016, 02:29 PM   #3
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I am a huge Berry fan, but I still hope we don't overpay.
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Old 02-03-2016, 02:33 PM   #4
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I am a huge Berry fan, but I still hope we don't overpay.
What is overpaying though? He is a top 3 safety in the league, so anything in that range has to be considered 'fair '. Maybe he takes somewhat of a discount, but I wouldn't expect much and I don't blame him. A Devin McCourty level deal seems fair.
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Old 02-03-2016, 02:38 PM   #5
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What is overpaying though? He is a top 3 safety in the league, so anything in that range has to be considered 'fair '. Maybe he takes somewhat of a discount, but I wouldn't expect much and I don't blame him. A Devin McCourty level deal seems fair.
Anything over $10 million per is overpaying
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Old 02-03-2016, 02:40 PM   #6
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Anything over $10 million per is overpaying
Agreed. McCourty got 47.5/5, I think that'd be a fair contract personally.
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Old 02-03-2016, 02:42 PM   #7
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Anything over $10 million per is overpaying
then be prepared to deal with it because i get a feeling it's only a matter of how much it's going to go past 10 million, not if.

With as good as Dorsey is as a GM, he still gets bent over the negotiation desk.


To be fair, the negotiate part is still new to Dorsey. He was player personnel until he came to KC, i doubt he's done much contract negotiation until now.
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Old 02-03-2016, 02:46 PM   #8
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then be prepared to deal with it because i get a feeling it's only a matter of how much it's going to go past 10 million, not if.

With as good as Dorsey is as a GM, he still gets bent over the negotiation desk.


To be fair, the negotiate part is still new to Dorsey. He was player personnel until he came to KC, i doubt he's done much contract negotiation until now.
He doesn't come out looking great in AAV but all of his deals are full of fake money.

People wailed about that Parker deal but ultimately 1) even if he plays it out, it'll be below market and 2) the Chiefs aren't paying much at all for the first 3 years and there's a nominal penalty for escaping the last 2.

He tends to overpay a bit for the JAG players, IMO. But Maclin didn't take him to the cleaners and Kelce's deal is a fair one at worst.

I just don't see the basis for your position that Dorsey is prone to getting smoked. He's offered one legitimately bad deal - Bowe. The others have been either at/below market or low priced enough that they don't really mean much anyway (Reid, Fanaika). You can question if Daniel was needed or not (I argue that he wasn't) but with the QB landscape being how it was and Daniel's word of mouth around the league being pretty outstanding, that was a market deal for Daniel as well.
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What is overpaying though? He is a top 3 safety in the league, so anything in that range has to be considered 'fair '. Maybe he takes somewhat of a discount, but I wouldn't expect much and I don't blame him. A Devin McCourty level deal seems fair.
Top 3 safety?

I'd take Chancellor, Earl thomas, Mccourty, Jenkins, Harrison Smith, Malcom Jenkins over Eric Berry right now.
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I'd take Chancellor, Earl thomas, Mccourty, Jenkins, Harrison Smith, Malcom Jenkins over Eric Berry right now.

You're a ****ing idiot, but I think the point is that most people would field the argument. He's a top 3 safety. It would likely just depend on your scheme, surrounding talent, what you're looking for, etc..
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Old 02-03-2016, 02:45 PM   #12
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Yeah, I so hope we don't pay one of the 2 best safeties in the league what he's worth you guys.
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Yeah, I so hope we don't pay one of the 2 best safeties in the league what he's worth you guys.
No shit. He and Houston are best friends. He's going nowhere. This team has unfinished business for 2016
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