If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

The Baltimore Ravens were the 2nd best opponent red zone scoring defense in the NFL in 2012.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat...ne-scoring-pct

I guess you think it is just magic to score against a team that only gives up 45% TDs in the red zone during the season and was even more stingy during the postseason.

You know damn well that Kaepernick said there was no play in the offensive playbook for cover 0.

2nd best red zone scoring defense + no offensive play for cover 0 = you do the math sonny.

More stats to show that he didnt choke by throwing wild passes instead of just using his wheels and running it in. Good God 90 year old Horseface ran it in, got hit, flipped in the air and scored. You are in denial- even the announcers were like wtf is he thinking. He had visions of MVP and he choked. Ravens were all but on their heels- even they were surprised how bad he played.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Not sure he's doing anything that's really blatant enough to be bannable, but I'll keep confirming that you're not a "mult" account. I'd suggest ignoring him.

I dont want him banned. I want him to take my name out of his mouth. You would figure with the way he sucks kaeps dick off that he would be too tired to worry about little ol me. I just want the blasphemy to stop. I want to come here to talk football. What he doesnt tell you, is that people HATE this guy over there. He is obnoxious, and relentless in his worshipping of Kaep. hes like a jehovahs witness, (no offense) but they come to your door, and are persistent, to the point of adnauseum. Thats this guy. I dont want him banned. just want him off my nuts, so that i can enjoy my time here.

I have a healthy respect for everyone here. I also have a healthy respect for the people that respect alex smith, and dont like being lumped in with them. Their opinions are just as important as mine, and its their OWN.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

The Baltimore Ravens were the 2nd best opponent red zone scoring defense in the NFL in 2012.

I guess you think it is just magic to score against a team that only gives up 45% TDs in the red zone during the season and was even more stingy during the postseason.

You know damn well that Kaepernick said there was no play in the offensive playbook for cover 0.

2nd best red zone scoring defense + no offensive play for cover 0 = you do the math sonny.

He had open receivers... just didn't find em. He could have thrown a catchable pass to Crabtree... he threw too far outside and didn't give Crabtree a chance. He just screwed up... hey, it happens. Even other Kaeperdicksuckers stated it to be true on SF boards.

It doesn't mean Kaep can't get it right next time. I still support him.. just being honest about it.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Okay. That is pretty much it. Ive had it with you. Any time you mention me, or try to link me about Mults, im flat out reporting it. I dont have multiple accounts, i didnt have them on the niners board, I have no reason to hide, i didnt come here to troll. I came here, just as I told you guys that I was going where ever alex smith went. do you recall that? Sure you do, im sure you along with your Kaep fan club can all ridiculing me, calling me not a true fan, but an alex smith fan. Remember that? hence the name ALEX SMITH FAN. It was in homage to you douchbe bags. And now that i am here, minding my own business, you try to tell people that I had mults over there. Which isnt true. Wanna know why? Tahoe knew from whatever location I was trying to create accounts from. i tried several times after the first time I was banned to get back on and couldnt. It wasnt until after the saints niner game that i was given my posting priviledges back. Tahoe is a facebook friend of mine. She is the one who authorized my deleting snoopy, and starting my second account, now mind you, NOT A MULT, AN ACTUAL NEW ACCOUNT WHERE I LOST MY POST COUNT, before i decided to come back at Snoopy.

So, you keep spreading your pathetic lies, and ill keep reporting you. Okay pumpkin?

I also noticed, how you decided to try to spread lies about me not being in the military, and also about me not having a wife. Did you see the pictures of both that I posted? I didnt see an apology so i figured you must of missed it.

now, stop telling lies about me, continue sucking everyone off here by telling them how bad alex smith sucks so you can keep your rep meter. Okay kaeps number one fan?

pumpkin-

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

More stats to show that he didnt choke by throwing wild passes instead of just using his wheels and running it in. Good God 90 year old Horseface ran it in, got hit, flipped in the air and scored. You are in denial- even the announcers were like wtf is he thinking. He had visions of MVP and he choked. Ravens were all but on their heels- even they were surprised how bad he played.

He also leaves out, that the one play they were going to run with kaep, the dope couldnt even get the play off on time, cause jim to burn a time out we needed. he also doesnt admit that all 4 goal line plays, were checked into, by KAEP himself, or that Kaeps true major weakness, is anything short.

kaep is a stud, and much better than alex smith, but the amount of he can do no wrong, is absolutely ridiculous.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Maverick91579

I dont want him banned. I want him to take my name out of his mouth. You would figure with the way he sucks kaeps dick off that he would be too tired to worry about little ol me. I just want the blasphemy to stop. I want to come here to talk football. What he doesnt tell you, is that people HATE this guy over there. He is obnoxious, and relentless in his worshipping of Kaep. hes like a jehovahs witness, (no offense) but they come to your door, and are persistent, to the point of adnauseum. Thats this guy. I dont want him banned. just want him off my nuts, so that i can enjoy my time here.

I have a healthy respect for everyone here. I also have a healthy respect for the people that respect alex smith, and dont like being lumped in with them. Their opinions are just as important as mine, and its their OWN.

The best way to get rid of a troll is to just stop feeding him...

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

First off how do you know Alex will be the 15th or 20th next year? Every year is different. He was the Best available was he not? If the chiefs could have given just a 5th rounder I am sure they would have. You can't say we gave too much when he has not even thrown a pass yet. Maybe he will make everyone happy on here and get hurt so they can drag up their post and say-"see I told you he was going to suck."

So if we go from a 2 win season to 10-6 and the playoffs that would not make you happy? That would be a Huge turn around.

How do I know he is the 15th-20th best QB in 2013? Because that's what his history suggests. Even in his "Great" 2011 season and half 2012 season, Smith was in that tier if you look at things objectively (and apply some context to his shiny QB rating). Thinking he is going to be an elite or near-elite QB can only be based on hope and belief.

I certainly can say we gave up too much. That's the point of watching a sport, right? Forming your opinions and discussing them. We gave up too much for Alex Smith unless he becomes a near-elite QB and leads the Chiefs to playoff wins, or unless the defense and running game become so good, he is able to manage the team to playoff wins.

I don't have FAITH those things are going to happen, but I won't be sad if they do. I just have to see it to believe it this time.

Simply making the playoffs with no positive upward momentum (hints at being able to do more than that) would leave me pretty neutral. If the hypothetical I posed actually happened, I would actually be incredibly disappointed, unless Dorsey/Reid used it as motivation to upgrade the QB spot.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Okay. That is pretty much it. Ive had it with you. Any time you mention me, or try to link me about Mults, im flat out reporting it. I dont have multiple accounts, i didnt have them on the niners board, I have no reason to hide, i didnt come here to troll. I came here, just as I told you guys that I was going where ever alex smith went. do you recall that? Sure you do, im sure you along with your Kaep fan club can all ridiculing me, calling me not a true fan, but an alex smith fan. Remember that? hence the name ALEX SMITH FAN. It was in homage to you douchbe bags. And now that i am here, minding my own business, you try to tell people that I had mults over there. Which isnt true. Wanna know why? Tahoe knew from whatever location I was trying to create accounts from. i tried several times after the first time I was banned to get back on and couldnt. It wasnt until after the saints niner game that i was given my posting priviledges back. Tahoe is a facebook friend of mine. She is the one who authorized my deleting snoopy, and starting my second account, now mind you, NOT A MULT, AN ACTUAL NEW ACCOUNT WHERE I LOST MY POST COUNT, before i decided to come back at Snoopy.

So, you keep spreading your pathetic lies, and ill keep reporting you. Okay pumpkin?

I also noticed, how you decided to try to spread lies about me not being in the military, and also about me not having a wife. Did you see the pictures of both that I posted? I didnt see an apology so i figured you must of missed it.

now, stop telling lies about me, continue sucking everyone off here by telling them how bad alex smith sucks so you can keep your rep meter. Okay kaeps number one fan?

This post reveals your TRUE identity. He's just a "hater," isn't he?

[Mav]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

How do I know he is the 15th-20th best QB in 2013? Because that's what his history suggests. Even in his "Great" 2011 season and half 2012 season, Smith was in that tier if you look at things objectively (and apply some context to his shiny QB rating). Thinking he is going to be an elite or near-elite QB can only be based on hope and belief.

I certainly can say we gave up too much. That's the point of watching a sport, right? Forming your opinions and discussing them. We gave up too much for Alex Smith unless he becomes a near-elite QB and leads the Chiefs to playoff wins, or unless the defense and running game become so good, he is able to manage the team to playoff wins.

I don't have FAITH those things are going to happen, but I won't be sad if they do. I just have to see it to believe it this time.

Simply making the playoffs with no positive upward momentum (hints at being able to do more than that) would leave me pretty neutral. If the hypothetical I posed actually happened, I would actually be incredibly disappointed, unless Dorsey/Reid used it as motivation to upgrade the QB spot.

The whole reason I was excited that Alex Smith was coming here, was because of the running game. jamaal Charles had what 1500 yards last year? With the qb situation, and the right side of your line being garbage, that is pretty impressive. And the truth be told, Alex Smith when he was the qb of the 49ers last season until he got hurt, they had the number one rushing attack in all of football. Those numbers can translate because he knows how to audible to the correct play. 3rd downs, deep passes, severe weakness. But the run game, and protecting the ball in itself will translate to better defense, and probably field position. those are at least worth 3-4 wins easily. Alex Smith is going to have to do a little more carrying than he is used to, thats where players like travis kelce, and fasano are going to have to come into play, and baldwin is going to have to make some kind of contribution......

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

You know damn well that Kaepernick said there was no play in the offensive playbook for cover 0.

2nd best red zone scoring defense + no offensive play for cover 0 = you do the math sonny.

Isn't cover 0 just a fancy way of saying man-to-man coverage with everyone up front and no safeties in the backfield...? How could there not be a play for that in the redzone?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Isn't cover 0 just a fancy way of saying man-to-man coverage with everyone up front and no safeties in the backfield...? How could there not be a play for that in the redzone?

There is, in that situation you just throw a fade.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by O.city

There is, in that situation you just throw a fade.

thats kinda what i thought....

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Maverick91579

I dont want him banned. I want him to take my name out of his mouth. You would figure with the way he sucks kaeps dick off that he would be too tired to worry about little ol me. I just want the blasphemy to stop. I want to come here to talk football. What he doesnt tell you, is that people HATE this guy over there. He is obnoxious, and relentless in his worshipping of Kaep. hes like a jehovahs witness, (no offense) but they come to your door, and are persistent, to the point of adnauseum. Thats this guy. I dont want him banned. just want him off my nuts, so that i can enjoy my time here.

I have a healthy respect for everyone here. I also have a healthy respect for the people that respect alex smith, and dont like being lumped in with them. Their opinions are just as important as mine, and its their OWN.

Funny that you would call someone else cult-like in his/her championing and defense of a QB.

Pot, kettle.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

thats kinda what i thought....

IIRC, he made the right call and threw the correct throw, it just wasn't a good throw.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

This post reveals your TRUE identity. He's just a "hater," isn't he?

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Look, I have a beautiful wife, a loving son, but my wife loves to gossip about her stuff at work. I come here, to talk football. people wanna bullshit, call some names, thats cool, call me an alex smith lover, all that shit, doesnt faze me. I dont want my personal life, nor lies told about me. Thats just the way I am. My true identity? Im snoop, and no one can take that from me, and I have backed alex smith since DAY ONE, and never waivered on him. Thats just the way it is. i believe that he will be successful here, but my idea of successful, is WAY different than most chiefs fans and I get that. they want their drew brees, eli, peyton, tom, aaron, i get that. Alex Smith is going to be successful because he lacks any ego, and puts the team first. Thats why i respect him. Thats why I like Kevin Durant, thats why I like Buster Posey, its just the way Im built. team first guys.