Mock Up The Draft! Vol. 2012

Direckshun · 11:00 PM

I'm making this thread a running thread throughout the year, for my entertainment primarily. You're welcome to join at any time.

Realistically, it's important that you address whatever assumptions you're going to make for your mock.

Particularly:

1. How well did the team do? (This will determine where we're selecting.)
2. How well did Cassel do? (This will determine our future direction.)
3. Which of the following players are we going to resign/let go (this will determine our needs for the draft):

RB Thomas Jones
FB Le'Ron McClain
WR Dwayne Bowe
WR Jerheme Urban
TE Leonard Pope
OT Jared Gaither
OT Barry Richardson
C Casey Wiegmann
NT Kelly Gregg
DE Wallace Gilberry
ILB Jovan Belcher (RFA)
ILB Brandon Siler
ILB Andy Studebaker
CB Brandon Flowers
CB Brandon Carr
CB Travis Daniels
S Jon McGraw
K Ryan Succop (RFA)

4. Any other information you care to share, or that might influence the Chiefs draft in some way.

You can speculate trades if you wish. I would advise against it, but it's a free country.

Direckshun · 09-04-2011, 11:39 PM

Some assumptions:

1. Gaither takes over RT duties from Richardson, but Albert plays well enough to keep his job. Gaither holds his duties down very well.

2. The Chiefs sign Gaither, Pope, and McClain to another one-year contract.

3. The Chiefs lose: Tyler Palko, Thomas Jones, Casey Wiegmann, and Kelly Gregg.

4. Bowe gets PAID. Carr and Flowers both get PAID.

5. Moeaki and Siler both return healthy and ready to play.

6. Cassel plays decently enough through a meandering 8-8 season. 25 TDs, 10 INTs. He faces a make-or-break year in 2012.

Let the games begin.

1. RB Trent Richardson, Alabama

What could a better pick in the middle of the 1st could there be? OLB is locked down by Houston and Hali, we've got three good WRs (assuming Baldwin comes along) and McCluster's apparently a factor downfield, now. The value isn't at RT in the middle of the first, and Pioli isn't going to take a QB.

2. NT Dontari Poe, Memphis

A reach perhaps, and out of character for Scott Pioli, who prefers big schoolers at all times. But the nose tackle waters are getting thinner and thinner, and going into the season with Powe as your only serious nose tackle won't do. Poe adds a huge body for goal line formats, and can provide some great depth.

3. OT/G Tanner Hawkinson, Kansas

Hawkinson is tailor-made for the zone blocking system. He will need a season or two in an NFL strength-and-conditioning program, but he seems to have long arms and excels in pass protection. He can switch in to guard, too, which will be desperately needed in 2012.

4. WR Jarrett Boykin, Virginia Tech

I really don't like the offense Boykin plays in, and I think it suppresses us from seeing him as a reliable receiver with great quickness and reliable hands. The WR corps needs depth, and we need another receiver should the Chiefs want to feature smaller, quicker packages with Breaston and McCluster to compliment the huge WR packages with Bowe, Baldwin, and Moeaki.

5. OG/C Moe Petrus, Connecticut

An underrated center for the Huskies, he played a season at guard before wrecking shit for Jordan Todman the past couple years at center. Again, depth is needed along the offensive line.

6. SS Harrison Smith, Notre Dame

It's been two seasons and the Chiefs still don't have a viable guy to spell Eric Berry. Hopefully that will change with Smith, a guy who's done next to nothing before exploding last year with 7 interceptions. Like almost all ND players, he's smart with high character, and features 4.5 speed.

7. QB Stephen Garcia, South Carolina

A game manager from the SEC playing in what has become a big time program over the past couple of years. Pioli takes a flyer.

Direckshun · 09-04-2011, 11:41 PM

QB: Cassel, Stanzi, Garcia
RB: Charles, Richardson, McCluster, McClain
FB: McClain

WR: Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston, McCluster, Boykin, Copper
TE: Moeaki, Pope, O'Connell

LT: Albert, Gaither
LG: Lilja, Petrus
C: Hudson, Petrus
RG: Asamoah, Hawkinson
RT: Gaither, Hawkinson

DE: Dorsey, Bailey
NT: Powe, Poe
DE: Jackson, Gilberry

OLB: Hali, Sheffield
ILB: Belcher, Siler
ILB: Johnson, Williams
OLB: Houston, Studebaker

CB: Flowers, Carr, Brown, Arenas, Daniels
S: Berry, Lewis, McGraw, Smith

K: Succop
P: Colquitt
LS: Gafford
PR: Arenas
KR: Arenas

Direckshun · 09-04-2011, 11:45 PM

Noticed the error in the thread heading.

Meh.

Bump · 09-04-2011, 11:47 PM

we should draft Tim Biere too

aturnis · 09-05-2011, 12:04 AM

As I said in draftplanet. I don't like it. You didn't go:

1. ILB

2. OT

3. TE

JoeyChuckles · 09-05-2011, 12:06 AM

Wow, if you get any of these right I will be surprised.

Not doubting your abilities or knowledge, just so far away and so much can happen.

**Ming the Merciless** · 09-05-2011, 03:50 AM

I would personally cream my pants if cassel goes 25-10 this season....especially if he misses a game or two.

As for the rest, I have no clue...would be cool to draft a bad ass RB 1st tho..

I hope you get alot of shit right....So

I AM POSTING IN EPIC NOSTRADAMUS THREAD

CupidStunt · 09-05-2011, 04:56 AM

You're just trying for attention and the surprise factor with the 1st pick. It simply isn't gonna happen. RBBC is fine...when you don't have a top 5 back. Richardson or anyone else isn't a load-helper, they're a carry-stealer. A nice bruiser in the 4th or even 3rd would be fine; a 250+ carry back in the 1st is way overkill.

Nightfyre · 09-05-2011, 04:04 PM

Okay, just how many ****ing make or break years does Cassel get? I mean, come on the dude is pushing THIRTY.

Urc Burry · 09-05-2011, 04:11 PM

I actually like Trent Richardson in the first... I might rather get a Vontaze Burfict or Te'o though. Little more value.

**Saul Good** · 09-05-2011, 05:25 PM

You just did an entire mock draft where you don't anticipate a single pick to start for an 8-8 team.

Direckshun · 09-05-2011, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CupidStunt

You're just trying for attention and the surprise factor with the 1st pick. It simply isn't gonna happen. RBBC is fine...when you don't have a top 5 back. Richardson or anyone else isn't a load-helper, they're a carry-stealer. A nice bruiser in the 4th or even 3rd would be fine; a 250+ carry back in the 1st is way overkill.

Not necessarily, just trying to see where the biggest bang for our buck can be in the first round.

I explained my reasoning. We already have two 1sts invested in WRs and paid money for Breaston with McCluster developing there.

We also have a starting caliber OLB in Houston, deserving of a season to prove himself. And we're not going to invest two 1sts at the safety position.

RT is not worth a first round pick (although I'm sure Pioli is targeting Riley Reiff as we speak), and there are not 1st round NT prospects that I can see.

Who would you have selected?

Direckshun · 09-05-2011, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Okay, just how many ****ing make or break years does Cassel get? I mean, come on the dude is pushing THIRTY.

I don't feel like Matt Cassel has received a single make-or-break year in Kansas City.

Yet.

Direckshun · 09-05-2011, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urc Burry

I actually like Trent Richardson in the first... I might rather get a Vontaze Burfict or Te'o though. Little more value.

I don't like ILB in the first unless it's a game changer like Burfict.

But Burfict is antithetical to the Right 53.

09-04-2011, 11:39 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4313447	Mock Up The Draft! Vol. 2012 I'm making this thread a running thread throughout the year, for my entertainment primarily. You're welcome to join at any time. Realistically, it's important that you address whatever assumptions you're going to make for your mock. Particularly: 1. How well did the team do? (This will determine where we're selecting.) 2. How well did Cassel do? (This will determine our future direction.) 3. Which of the following players are we going to resign/let go (this will determine our needs for the draft): RB Thomas Jones FB Le'Ron McClain WR Dwayne Bowe WR Jerheme Urban TE Leonard Pope OT Jared Gaither OT Barry Richardson C Casey Wiegmann NT Kelly Gregg DE Wallace Gilberry ILB Jovan Belcher (RFA) ILB Brandon Siler ILB Andy Studebaker CB Brandon Flowers CB Brandon Carr CB Travis Daniels S Jon McGraw K Ryan Succop (RFA) 4. Any other information you care to share, or that might influence the Chiefs draft in some way. You can speculate trades if you wish. I would advise against it, but it's a free country. Last edited by Direckshun; 09-05-2011 at 11:00 PM..
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09-04-2011, 11:39 PM	#2
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4313447	Some assumptions: 1. Gaither takes over RT duties from Richardson, but Albert plays well enough to keep his job. Gaither holds his duties down very well. 2. The Chiefs sign Gaither, Pope, and McClain to another one-year contract. 3. The Chiefs lose: Tyler Palko, Thomas Jones, Casey Wiegmann, and Kelly Gregg. 4. Bowe gets PAID. Carr and Flowers both get PAID. 5. Moeaki and Siler both return healthy and ready to play. 6. Cassel plays decently enough through a meandering 8-8 season. 25 TDs, 10 INTs. He faces a make-or-break year in 2012. Let the games begin. 1. RB Trent Richardson, Alabama What could a better pick in the middle of the 1st could there be? OLB is locked down by Houston and Hali, we've got three good WRs (assuming Baldwin comes along) and McCluster's apparently a factor downfield, now. The value isn't at RT in the middle of the first, and Pioli isn't going to take a QB. 2. NT Dontari Poe, Memphis A reach perhaps, and out of character for Scott Pioli, who prefers big schoolers at all times. But the nose tackle waters are getting thinner and thinner, and going into the season with Powe as your only serious nose tackle won't do. Poe adds a huge body for goal line formats, and can provide some great depth. 3. OT/G Tanner Hawkinson, Kansas Hawkinson is tailor-made for the zone blocking system. He will need a season or two in an NFL strength-and-conditioning program, but he seems to have long arms and excels in pass protection. He can switch in to guard, too, which will be desperately needed in 2012. 4. WR Jarrett Boykin, Virginia Tech I really don't like the offense Boykin plays in, and I think it suppresses us from seeing him as a reliable receiver with great quickness and reliable hands. The WR corps needs depth, and we need another receiver should the Chiefs want to feature smaller, quicker packages with Breaston and McCluster to compliment the huge WR packages with Bowe, Baldwin, and Moeaki. 5. OG/C Moe Petrus, Connecticut An underrated center for the Huskies, he played a season at guard before wrecking shit for Jordan Todman the past couple years at center. Again, depth is needed along the offensive line. 6. SS Harrison Smith, Notre Dame It's been two seasons and the Chiefs still don't have a viable guy to spell Eric Berry. Hopefully that will change with Smith, a guy who's done next to nothing before exploding last year with 7 interceptions. Like almost all ND players, he's smart with high character, and features 4.5 speed. 7. QB Stephen Garcia, South Carolina A game manager from the SEC playing in what has become a big time program over the past couple of years. Pioli takes a flyer.
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09-04-2011, 11:41 PM	#3
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4313447	QB: Cassel, Stanzi, Garcia RB: Charles, Richardson, McCluster, McClain FB: McClain WR: Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston, McCluster, Boykin, Copper TE: Moeaki, Pope, O'Connell LT: Albert, Gaither LG: Lilja, Petrus C: Hudson, Petrus RG: Asamoah, Hawkinson RT: Gaither, Hawkinson DE: Dorsey, Bailey NT: Powe, Poe DE: Jackson, Gilberry OLB: Hali, Sheffield ILB: Belcher, Siler ILB: Johnson, Williams OLB: Houston, Studebaker CB: Flowers, Carr, Brown, Arenas, Daniels S: Berry, Lewis, McGraw, Smith K: Succop P: Colquitt LS: Gafford PR: Arenas KR: Arenas
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09-04-2011, 11:45 PM	#4
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4313447	Noticed the error in the thread heading. Meh.
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09-05-2011, 04:56 AM	#9
CupidStunt offense > defense Join Date: Jul 2005 Casino cash: $2463332	You're just trying for attention and the surprise factor with the 1st pick. It simply isn't gonna happen. RBBC is fine...when you don't have a top 5 back. Richardson or anyone else isn't a load-helper, they're a carry-stealer. A nice bruiser in the 4th or even 3rd would be fine; a 250+ carry back in the 1st is way overkill.
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Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $3558849	Okay, just how many ****ing make or break years does Cassel get? I mean, come on the dude is pushing THIRTY.
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09-05-2011, 05:25 PM	#12
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