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Old 04-25-2011, 03:51 PM  
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A few have suggested it, might as well test the waters. The idea is to give people who haven't read the books a safe place to talk about the show.

A few quick ground rules:
  • No Spoilers!!!!! for upcoming episodes.
  • Larger Song of Ice and Fire discussion should be limited to the other thread although I think a tiny bit of book delving to fill in holes should be okay (example of this would be talking about Catelyn and her treatment of the wolves in the novel, which was alluded to on TV but never really made clear...)
  • Everything that happened that week is fair game once an episode airs. So if you don't watch on Sunday night, I'd stay outta here until you do...
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:04 AM   #2761
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Hardly matters. The North would be last on their list anyway, most likely.


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This. A lot.



And Viserys, having taken the throne, could use crown funds to form an army that could take the North.

Good points.

I still don't see how they'd be able to take a fortress guarded by an army of armored knights though.

Maybe they have some weapons/tactics that aren't shown on the show.. I mean, do they have shields? Battering rams? Would they be willing to don small amounts of armor to protect from arrows at least? Would they man warships on the river?
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Old 05-06-2015, 08:12 PM   #2762
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Just a brief bit from actual world history -- when the Mongols conquered, they often identified skilled tradesman, engineers and the like, and impressed them into their army. As a result, they became very successful at sieges, actually.

Winterfell gets surrounded and starved out. It's landlocked, so they're ****ed once the food runs out.

King's Landing would be much tougher as it had access to open water. The dothraki, hating water, would struggle with that one.
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Old 05-06-2015, 09:56 PM   #2763
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It's probably a fools' errand to apply real-life strategies to Game of Thrones, but forging on nonetheless, I would imagine they'd land anywhere but Blackwater Bay. The Dothraki horsemen used to semi-arid wasteland would love the rich grasslands of central Westeros, and they could recruit and build siege weapons to their heart's desire. That amount of self-sufficient horsemen could annihilate almost any force sent against them in record time, especially if they were reinforced with Unsullied and - dear Lord - dragons.

Which brings to mind another tactical advantage: Castles are not built to defend against aerial threats.
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Old 05-06-2015, 10:01 PM   #2764
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Le dragons.

Drogon is big as shit and he's probably like a preteen as far as dragon years are concerned.

So are they going to come over in time to **** up some White Walkers or what? Dragons vs snow zombies? **** YEAH!
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Old 05-07-2015, 09:36 AM   #2765
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Dragons vs snow zombies? **** YEAH!
I think that's actually the title of the seventh book.
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Old 05-07-2015, 11:07 AM   #2766
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Do you guys think the "You know nothing Jon Snow" comment was the red priest channeling Ygritte's spirit or was it a coincidence? I think she may have channeled her, for the purpose of exploiting Jon's feelings to convince him to ride on winterfell with Stanis.
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Do you guys think the "You know nothing Jon Snow" comment was the red priest channeling Ygritte's spirit or was it a coincidence? I think she may have channeled her, for the purpose of exploiting Jon's feelings to convince him to ride on winterfell with Stanis.
I think it was just a way of showing Jon that she sees everything in her fire. She knows his secrets. And she wants him to know that.
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Old 05-07-2015, 02:31 PM   #2768
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I think it was just a way of showing Jon that she sees everything in her fire. She knows his secrets. And she wants him to know that.
Yep. Certainly not coincidental.
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Well, I cheated and watched the first 4 episodes, so now that everyone is up to date....I think Stannis is going to kick the bucket. Why? Because I'm starting to root for him.
That was an excellent scene, probably the best of that episode. And you're right, that likely sealed his fate.
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That was an excellent scene, probably the best of that episode. And you're right, that likely sealed his fate.
Maybe they'll have him kill his wife to save his daughter.
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Old 05-07-2015, 02:43 PM   #2771
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Maybe they'll have him kill his wife to save his daughter.
I'd be good with that.

In the books, iirc, his wife was kind of a whiny, sniveling woman. Had that spoiled feel about her, and she CLEARLY didn't want to be at the Wall. In the show, she seems to be just mean spirited and conniving in a way. Somewhat curious to where they take her in the show.
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I'd be good with that.

In the books, iirc, his wife was kind of a whiny, sniveling woman. Had that spoiled feel about her, and she CLEARLY didn't want to be at the Wall. In the show, she seems to be just mean spirited and conniving in a way. Somewhat curious to where they take her in the show.
What I'm hoping is that Melisandre walks in on his wife trying to kill his daughter. Stannis takes her head for it.
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I'm not sure Stannis could die with Melisandre around.
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I already watched the 1st 4 episodes cuz im a cheater like that.

Is the 5th episode this week? Or are you guys on #4 this week?
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I already watched the 1st 4 episodes cuz im a cheater like that.

Is the 5th episode this week? Or are you guys on #4 this week?
5th episode is this Sunday.
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