new england plays an unusual defense

[Mr. Laz]

watching the pats/packers game


on running downs, new england plays a 3-4 (4 defensive backs)

on passing downs, they play a 4-1-6 (6 defensive backs)

[NJ Chief Fan]

belichick is a weirdo...fudge him and the pats and tom brady(2nd most over rated qb in the nfl behind mcbundle of sticksg)

[Hammock Parties]

What the hell is so weird about a 4-1-6? That's standard dime alignment if I'm not mistaken. 4 down linemen, middle linebacker, four corners and two safeties.

Because of STOUD. Take him out and you will see them play base D.

Tampa Bay when Sapp was good did the same shit.

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by Laz

watching the pats/packers game


on running downs, new england plays a 3-4 (4 defensive backs)

on passing downs, they play a 4-1-6 (6 defensive backs)

Is there a punchline comin'?

3-4, cover 2 (or man under/2 deep zone) is an aggressive run defense; with the right personnel....it can be an awesome run defense.

4-1-6 is nothin' more than "dime" coverage, against likely passing situations (2 of the 6 DBs should be safeties, or CBs who can bring the wood though....)

Am I missin' somethin'?

SCHEMES don't matter. Players do.

You fit schemes around players.

Tampa Bay ran a 4 - 1- 6 because they KNEW teams coulnd't run on them and they could get pressure with 4 DLinemen.

[TRR]

Originally Posted by Ninjaman

SCHEMES don't matter. Players do.

You fit schemes around players.

Tampa Bay ran a 4 - 1- 6 because they KNEW teams coulnd't run on them and they could get pressure with 4 DLinemen.

I couldn't disagree more. Belichick has constently fit players into his scheme. There aren't any superstars on the Pats. Every player fits a role, and they win Championships.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

Is there a punchline comin'?

3-4, cover 2 (or man under/2 deep zone) is an aggressive run defense; with the right personnel....it can be an awesome run defense.

4-1-6 is nothin' more than "dime" coverage, against likely passing situations (2 of the 6 DBs should be safeties, or CBs who can bring the wood though....)

Am I missin' somethin'?

but usually the # of defensive backs match the # of wide receivers


the pats aren't doing that


6 defensive backs against 2 Wrs



defense looks very flexible

[TRR]

Originally Posted by Laz

but usually the # of defensive backs match the # of wide receivers


the pats aren't doing that


6 defensive backs against 2 Wrs



defense looks very flexible

I watched an interview with Belichick where he says he prefers defensive speed over power. He likes for his CB's to be able to outrun people to the ball, rather than D Lineman filling gaps, etc.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by TRR

I watched an interview with Belichick where he says he prefers defensive speed over power. He likes for his CB's to be able to outrun people to the ball, rather than D Lineman filling gaps, etc.

ya ... it just caught my attention when they went from 4 linebackers to 1 while green bay stayed in the same formation.


it was just a little weird looking


wonder what happens if the offense runs against this small/fast lineup?

[tk13]

The best one was last year when they'd run that 0-5-6 with no down linemen. That was bizarre.

[TRR]

Originally Posted by Laz

ya ... it just caught my attention when they went from 4 linebackers to 1 while green bay stayed in the same formation.


it was just a little weird looking


wonder what happens if the offense runs against this small/fast lineup?

I don't know...Didn't Belichick run a defense last season with 0 Defensive Lineman, 5 LB's, and 6 DB's?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by TRR

I couldn't disagree more. Belichick has constently fit players into his scheme. There aren't any superstars on the Pats. Every player fits a role, and they win Championships.

Does that mean we'll see a new "Spinner" D when they add Monty Beisel to the mixture?

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Beisel has been struggling against the run. Shocker.

[TRR]

Originally Posted by SNR

Does that mean we'll see a new "Spinner" D when they add Monty Beisel to the mixture?

It's funny, nobody ever talked about Monty Beisel when he was with the Chiefs. I mean, he wasn't even a thought. Now, everytime I watch any type of football show, they bring up Beisel and the Pats, and how he's going to fill a big hole for them. Give me a break...I liked Monty, and thought he played well last season, but he's not even half the player Fujita is IMO. And most around here think Fujita sucks.