Star Lotulelei

[DJ's left nut]

Star's a damn monster.

We should've made a move for Tannehill last season so we could go Star this season. Hell yes you would move up for him if he's available in the 20s.

He won't be.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Star's a damn monster.

We should've made a move for Tannehill last season so we could go Star this season. Hell yes you would move up for him if he's available in the 20s.

He won't be.

I already said, when they did it, that the pick of Poe was a waste if they wanted a NT as there were three first round talents in the next draft.

Another shortsighted piss away draft pick by Pioli.

Starlite is a beast.

However, it's going to end up ****ing great as Pioli is going to be fired, Crennel is going to be fired and Daboll is going to be fired and we will actually draft a position that actually is relevant to ultimate team success in the NFL - the quarterback.

And Starlite is going to make either Jacksonville or Carolina very happy. He's a top five pick at this point. And a redundant pick by the Chiefs. Unless they switch to a 4-3 next season with the new coaching staff.

The trade up you need to be talking about is Manti Te'o or John Banks. The past two MSU games, Banks, even with an injured knee, is still the best player on the field. He just stands out. That guy is a stud. Same with Te'o.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I already said, when they did it, that the pick of Poe was a waste if they wanted a NT as there were three first round talents in the next draft.

Another shortsighted piss away draft pick by Pioli.

Starlite is a beast.

However, it's going to end up ****ing great as Pioli is going to be fired, Crennel is going to be fired and Daboll is going to be fired and we will actually draft a position that actually is relevant to ultimate team success in the NFL - the quarterback.

And Starlite is going to make either Jacksonville or Carolina very happy. He's a top five pick at this point. And a redundant pick by the Chiefs. Unless they switch to a 4-3 next season with the new coaching staff.

The trade up you need to be talking about is Manti Te'o or John Banks. The past two MSU games, Banks, even with an injured knee, is still the best player on the field. He just stands out. That guy is a stud. Same with Te'o.

**** trading up for a non pass rushing linebacker.

Id be totally fine if we did so for Star or one of the other stud DL though...depending on the cost, but if we are trading up, I think Id rather use the ammo to move up and take another playmaker on offense.

If we have a chance at taking Geno Smith in the first round, we need to spend some resources on putting as many weapons around him as possible...even though I think our current weapons are pretty damn good.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by BossChief

**** trading up for a non pass rushing linebacker.

Id be totally fine if we did so for Star or one of the other stud DL though...depending on the cost, but if we are trading up, I think Id rather use the ammo to move up and take another playmaker on offense.

If we have a chance at taking Geno Smith in the first round, we need to spend some resources on putting as many weapons around him as possible...even though I think our current weapons are pretty damn good.

The offense is pretty loaded. Having guys like Bowe, Baldwin, Boss, Moeaki, McCluster, Charles and Hillis as well as a pretty decent offensive line is not a bad situation for a rookie QB to come into, especially one that can throw a ball.

As long as there is a competent offensive coordinator running/calling the system.

However, there's not a chance in hell that Starlite falls out of the top ten. He's got a chance to be the first pick in the draft depending upon who's taking that pick. If the Chiefs lose picks to move up for a defensive tackle, I'd ****ing freak out.

Personally, I don't think that there is a huge difference between Shane Skov and Manti Te'o, and Skov should be there in the third when the Chiefs make their selection.

And as much as I like John Banks, I think that Dave Amerson is about the same level and could be had with the Chiefs second rounder as I have them taking him in my most recent mock.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

The offense is pretty loaded. Having guys like Bowe, Baldwin, Boss, Moeaki, McCluster, Charles and Hillis as well as a pretty decent offensive line is not a bad situation for a rookie QB to come into, especially one that can throw a ball.

As long as there is a competent offensive coordinator running/calling the system.

However, there's not a chance in hell that Starlite falls out of the top ten. He's got a chance to be the first pick in the draft depending upon who's taking that pick. If the Chiefs lose picks to move up for a defensive tackle, I'd ****ing freak out.

Personally, I don't think that there is a huge difference between Shane Skov and Manti Te'o, and Skov should be there in the third when the Chiefs make their selection.

And as much as I like John Banks, I think that Dave Amerson is about the same level and could be had with the Chiefs second rounder as I have them taking him in my most recent mock.

Skov would be a really nice pickup in the third to eventually replace Belcher. I wouldn't mind a trade-down scenario where we take him in the 2nd either (otherwise I think he's a reach).

If you go with Skov, it signals a commitment to the 3-4 though, as I don't see him doing as well in a 4-3.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BossChief

**** trading up for a non pass rushing linebacker.

Id be totally fine if we did so for Star or one of the other stud DL though...depending on the cost, but if we are trading up, I think Id rather use the ammo to move up and take another playmaker on offense.

If we have a chance at taking Geno Smith in the first round, we need to spend some resources on putting as many weapons around him as possible...even though I think our current weapons are pretty damn good.

I'm still opposed to the 3-4.

If Te'o is bouncing around in the late 1st, you trade up and switch to a 4-3 to accommodate him. The kid's the next Urlacher, IMO.

If you can get Smith and Te'o, you've put together the cornerstones for the next decade on both sides of the ball. Those are the two most valuable leadership positions and they'd be filled by guys with absolute top-shelf ability and intangibles.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm still opposed to the 3-4.

If Te'o is bouncing around in the late 1st, you trade up and switch to a 4-3 to accommodate him. The kid's the next Urlacher, IMO.

If you can get Smith and Te'o, you've put together the cornerstones for the next decade on both sides of the ball. Those are the two most valuable leadership positions and they'd be filled by guys with absolute top-shelf ability and intangibles.

Do you move DJ to weakside? DJ - Teo - Houston? Do you put Houston at DE opposite Hali?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Do you move DJ to weakside? DJ - Teo - Houston? Do you put Houston at DE opposite Hali?

Y'know, DJ has slowed down enough as he's aged while also getting smarter, that I think I put him on the strong side.

He's stronger than we realize, so I think he can seal on run plays. He's also proven to be solid in coverage, so having him lined up over the TE would be nice. He's never been an elite rusher, so why bother putting him on the weakside where his pass-rush skills would be utilized?

Nah, I'd go with Te'o in the middle and DJ on the strong side. The question really does become how you line out Houston and Hali. While Hali would probably be considered a RDE, I almost wonder if you don't get better use out of him as an LDE with Houston lined up as the Will opposite of him. Look at is as duplicating the Thomas/Neil Smith dynamic.

With our present personnel, perhaps you go with Hali - Powe - Poe - Bailey lined up from left to right across the front with DJ - Te'o and Houston behind them.

It's moot though, Te'o has locked himself in as a top 10 pick and probably a top 5 guy at this point.