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Old 03-15-2013, 05:42 AM  
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Chiefs have an OT in the building!

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Chiefs staying busy, visiting today with Vikings free-agent OT Geoff Schwartz, whom they are expected to sign.

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Old 03-15-2013, 09:06 AM   #151
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This version of KC (Reid/Dorsey) doesn't really have a history, at least not together.
Understood, but the 1st round DL busts and bums spans more than the last regime.

You have to go back to Neil Smith to find a DL that KC drafted in the 1st that was worth a crap.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:11 AM   #152
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With these moves I think it paves the way for Shariff Floyd or Jarvis Jones to be our pick.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:18 AM   #153
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Geoff Schwartz can also play guard if need be. He is a very good player. Problem was his hip that is fixed via surgery now. When healthy, he is Pro Bowl - caliber - by talent - not popular vote. Seriously, he is a good player. This guy could be the best value FA the Chiefs sign. I hope they get this guy.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:22 AM   #154
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With these moves I think it paves the way for Shariff Floyd or Jarvis Jones to be our pick.
I think these moves show they really do believe in BPA. They are trying to plug every gaping hole in the team before the draft, so they can stay true to their BPA philoshophy.

We are so used to holes in the team that last for years that none of us really believed in the BPA I think.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:29 AM   #155
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I can't believe people think we are going to draft a QB still. So basically we're gonna draft a QB 1st overall to be the 3rd string QB this year?
At this point....whomever we draft at #1 is going to be a backup player. And I totally don't see Reid and Dorsey drafting a RT at 1.1.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:34 AM   #156
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I agree, except that it'd only be a controversy if 1) Reid & co. allow it and 2) if Smith plays like trash. If Reid & co. name Smith the starter from day 1 then there's no controversy until #2 happens.
With the Geno-mania that I've witness around here along with the aura that a 1.1 QB naturally carries, I don't think we can count on a proclamation from Andy Reid quieting the calls for Geno from the start. But even if we can, Alex Smith would have to be outstanding right out of the gate to keep the controversy from raging. It's not enough for him to not play like trash, IMO. With a team bringing in a ton of new players and the first year of a new system, I think that's expecting a lot.

That said, if Andy Reid believes that Geno Smith can be this teams franchise QB in a year or two, he should definitely take him. I just don't think it's going to happen.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:36 AM   #157
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With the Geno-mania that I've witness around here along with the aura that a 1.1 QB naturally carries, I don't think we can count on a proclamation from Andy Reid quieting the calls for Geno from the start. But even if we can, Alex Smith would have to be outstanding right out of the gate to keep the controversy from raging. It's not enough for him to not play like trash, IMO. With a team bringing in a ton of new players and the first year of a new system, I think that's expecting a lot.

That said, if Andy Reid believes that Geno Smith can be this teams franchise QB in a year or two, he should definitely take him. I just don't think it's going to happen.
You don't think that's going to happen if we don't draft a QB and you have Chase Daniel sitting back there.

If Alex Smith plays average to below average in the first 8 games and we're sitting at 3-5 or 2-6.....you're going to hear people start calling for Chase to start.
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Understood, but the 1st round DL busts and bums spans more than the last regime.

You have to go back to Neil Smith to find a DL that KC drafted in the 1st that was worth a crap.
Yeah, but none of that matters. The people who evaluated all those drafts are long gone. We don't have to go back nearly that far to find quality DL taken in the first round by Green Bay and Philadelphia. In general, DL seems to have a big bust factor, but doing without a DL isn't really an option either.
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Yeah, but none of that matters. The people who evaluated all those drafts are long gone. We don't have to go back nearly that far to find quality DL taken in the first round by Green Bay and Philadelphia. In general, DL seems to have a big bust factor, but doing without a DL isn't really an option either.
And if we go DL at 1.1......he won't even start right away.
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Yeah, but none of that matters. The people who evaluated all those drafts are long gone. We don't have to go back nearly that far to find quality DL taken in the first round by Green Bay and Philadelphia. In general, DL seems to have a big bust factor, but doing without a DL isn't really an option either.
Every position has a big bust factor.
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You don't think that's going to happen if we don't draft a QB and you have Chase Daniel sitting back there.

If Alex Smith plays average to below average in the first 8 games and we're sitting at 3-5 or 2-6.....you're going to hear people start calling for Chase to start.
I don't think that will have nearly the impact that it would if the backup was also drafted 1.1. Chase Daniel is a local favorite because of his Mizzou ties, but otherwise, he's really just the typical "most popular guy in town" backup that every team has.
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I can't believe people think we are going to draft a QB still. So basically we're gonna draft a QB 1st overall to be the 3rd string QB this year?
Anythng is possible. What did Rogers do his first year in GB?
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Every position has a big bust factor.
True enough. But to the argument that KC has a particularly bad track record with DL, the answer is that the guys picking for KC this year aren't the same guys who made all those other picks.
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I think they're banking on someone wanting to leapfrog Jax.
to trade down, and try to pick up a 2nd. Then take one of the 'other' QBs.


WAG on my part though.
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And if we go DL at 1.1......he won't even start right away.
And that's my point, and I think yours as well Pestilence, regarding 1.1 and KC taking QB there.

It's ok to let a DL taken @ 1.1 to sit and learn, rotate in now and again to learn the position in the NFL.

But a QB taken @ 1.1 sitting and learning, getting into a few games late to learn the position in the NFL?!?! The Hell you say!!!
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