****Official **** You Mike Mayock Thread****

[In58men]

http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000140130/

The Kansas City Chiefs need a quarterback, but there aren't any this season that look like a top-ten talent, much less a No. 1 overall pick.

The way Mike Mayock sees it, the Chiefs should be looking to the offensive line for their first overall pick. And there are only four players worth the No. 1 overall pick in this draft for Kansas City: Alabama guard Chance Warmack, UNC guard Jonathan Cooper, Texas A&M tackle Luke Joekel, or Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher.

Mayock said on a conference call Monday that some people will say he's crazy to potentially take a guard at No. 1 overall, but Mayock says Warmack is the best player in this draft. So he doesn't see it as crazy at all.

In the end, Mayock believes the pick could come down to Joekel or Warmack. This is a draft where the top-shelf players don't stand apart too much, and there may not be a huge difference between picks 5 and 25. That makes it a tricky spot for the Chiefs.

Don't be surprised if Kansas City builds from the inside out, and finds their quarterback of the future later.



He gives the Chiefs 4 options at #1 and they're all offensive lineman? Go **** yourself bro

@Jacobs71: Here is what Mayock said on #Chiefs pick in full "Well, part of it depends on what they're going to do with free agency and Branden Albert."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think the answer to that, obviously, is going to give you the answer. Sitting where they are, let's face it, they need a QB."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"We don't know that there are a lot of people who think Geno Smith is in that ballpark."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't, but there are a lot of people that think he should be considered."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"When you look at what they're going to do, what are they going to do with Dwayne Bowe?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" Whoever the quarterback is, they need a wide receiver. And I think John Dorsey has to be thinking what is the big picture here?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I've got one, and I've got 34. What is the best combination of getting the most value out of that?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"And I think that offensive lineman at 1 is the most solid guy they can go with."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't care whether it's Warmack or Joeckel. People will tell me I'm crazy that a guard can't go No. 1."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think he's the best player in the draft, so I would argue that."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:" But either way, I think they've got to get an offensive lineman and come back at 33 and prepare to go with a QB or WR."

@Jacobs71: When I asked Mayock about who fits Reid's system at QB: " I think Matt Barkley makes a lot of sense."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" He's a guy as a junior at USC looked so much different than he did this year."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"With Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson, I think all three of those guys you have to go back and watch junior tape. "

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" So I think Barkley fits what he does. I think Ryan Nassib fits what he does."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson both can fit what he does."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"So of those, that group of guys of the top seven, eight quarterbacks, I think those are the guys that did it most efficiently."

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It's been 43 ****in years people.....You worried about getting set back if QB busts? Yeah, draft that lineman, that'll put asses in the seats....

[O.city]

Originally Posted by patteeu

No, I didn't say that they were "automatically" smarter than anyone. They don't make knowledge-sparse statistical arguments about these things though. They spend long hours studying minute details and make educated guesses about how these prospects will develop.

Nor did I say that anyone has to "defer" to them. You're welcome to have an opinion, but you step way across the line of rationality when you start to believe that your opinion is the only possible right opinion.

Never have said my opinion is the only right opinion, obviously everyone is wrong from time to time.


There are also guys on this site that do spend that much time making decisions.

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Chiefs aren't sold on rookie QBs

By Bill Williamson, ESPN

Nothing sets a franchise back like a whiffing on a quarterback at the top of the draft.

Yeah, trading for Matt Cassel is MUCH safer.

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And **** NICK FOLES!!!! 43 years.....let that sink in....worried about a setback? GET THE **** OUTTA HERE!!!! Total Idiots out here.......I don't see Luck or RG III with any jewelry yet......and there is no guarantee they will get any....So I guess all QB classes henceforth and forever will suck and never measure up to the Luck RGIII class because they are absolutely flawless...

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If KC doesn't pick a QB first, they can suck my dick!!!!

[Hammock Parties]

The poll is 2-to-1 against OL right now.

https://www.facebook.com/questions/5...t=feed_comment

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So Mayock is setting our draft board now? **** that muthafukka.....Who the **** does he think he is to tell Dorsey and Reid who the **** to draft. Ignorant shit going around now...

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by SNR

You should know from politics that not all ideas have value just because they're ideas. Some are good ideas and some are bad ideas.

Not taking a QB is a bad idea. It's foolish. Unstable. Ill-supported. And those who are of that opinion are wrong.

Opinions are wrong if they can't be backed up, and so far the only argument I've seen for not taking a QB is "what if the QB busts?"

I'm not sure you're a good judge of when an idea is bad and when it's good. You'd better leave that kind of thing to people like me. It can be tricky sometimes.

But seriously, that's not the only argument you've heard for not taking a QB. Unless you've got your fingers in your ears to avoid it, you've heard the argument that none of these QBs are good enough to justify using a #1 overall pick if your criteria for a pick like that is someone you expect to be an elite player. There are a lot of people making that argument, including Mike Mayock. I don't know whether that argument is right or not, but I accept that it's plausible even if you don't.

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Geno is better than nick cassel foles

[O.city]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I'm not sure you're a good judge of when an idea is bad and when it's good. You'd better leave that kind of thing to people like me. It can be tricky sometimes.

But seriously, that's not the only argument you've heard for not taking a QB. Unless you've got your fingers in your ears to avoid it, you've heard the argument that none of these QBs are good enough to justify using a #1 overall pick if your criteria for a pick like that is someone you expect to be an elite player. There are a lot of people making that argument, including Mike Mayock. I don't know whether that argument is right or not, but I accept that it's plausible even if you don't.

Thats a little holier than thou isn't it?


I'm just not sure where we are going to find an elite player at 1 and if you wanna take a guard that high, eh.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by O.city

Never have said my opinion is the only right opinion, obviously everyone is wrong from time to time.


There are also guys on this site that do spend that much time making decisions.

No there aren't. There are guys on this site who talk like they spend that much time, but it's just talk. Some CP members spend more time than others and some have more basic knowledge than others, but none have access to the resources, have the expertise or put as much time into it as the personnel guys who do this for a living.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by GoWalrus

The poll is 2-to-1 against OL right now.

https://www.facebook.com/questions/5...t=feed_comment

I have no idea how you do it. Those people make me want to blind myself permanently.

[In58men]

Why is it that KC finally gets a #1 pick there isn't any stand out QBs?


The football gods do not like us. Nobody is sold on a QB going #1. We picked the wrong year to suck. This draft is going to be shit.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by patteeu

No there aren't. There are guys on this site who talk like they spend that much time, but it's just talk. Some CP members spend more time than others and some have more basic knowledge than others, but none have access to the resources, have the expertise or put as much time into it as the personnel guys who do this for a living.

And we are back to the "because they do it for a living, they have an expertise at it".

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by O.city

Thats a little holier than thou isn't it?

What is? Saying that the idea to draft someone other than a QB is such a bad idea that it can't be a valid opinion? Yeah, it is. You should point that out to SNR.

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm just not sure where we are going to find an elite player at 1 and if you wanna take a guard that high, eh.

You're not sure where we would find an elite player at 1? Does that mean that you don't think there will be a single player in this draft that turns out to be elite?

Who is the "you" that wants to take a guard that high?