Installing a passenger side mirror?

[Hootie]

some dipshit kicked/punched my side mirror off and I had to go to ebay to buy a replacement...

I am not savvy enough (I'm a dipshit) to install it myself and I am getting a little bit of work done tomorrow at an auto shop and I'm going to bring the mirror with me and ask them to install it for me...

how much should I be expecting them to charge me for that labor since I have already bought the part?

[Steron]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

well, he did say he has some duct tape

[notorious]

WTF?

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by notorious

WTF?

can't stop laughing oh man that cracks me up

[Steron]

Originally Posted by notorious

WTF?

The look on the monkey's face is priceless.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

No, I've stated that my book time is increased by a percentage.

There is a difference.

That's exactly what I just posted you goddamned inbred.

[chiefforlife]

In case anyone wants to know, an 02 Audi Allroad door mirror's official book time is 1 hour.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

That's exactly what I just posted you goddamned inbred.

No, that isn't EXACTLY what you just posted, you imbecile.

Originally Posted by chiefforlife

In case anyone wants to know, an 02 Audi Allroad door mirror's official book time is 1 hour.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

I think an interesting question to ask Saul is this.

If Mitchell and Alldata, which have been in business far longer than I have, have the option to scale booktime +/- in their software, does that not make them crooks? Despite the fact that they are the industry leaders in approximated "book times".?

So your contention is that, because the software contains a manual override feature, it's ethical to falsify labor times?

Maybe some jobs take longer than the book lists because of extenuating circumstances. That doesn't mean that you should, as a matter of practice, use this feature in order to bill for hours that were never worked.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

How?



Lets make a bet, then.

If I find a thread where you and I argued, your name on CP is forever changed to "lying ****ing thief", if I can't find one, mine is changed forever to "lying ****ing thief".

Do we have an agreement? Or do you back down knowing that I am not wrong, that I am an honest person, and I call it exactly how it is?

I'm not asking for an apology here, you are entitled to say what you want, I'm asking you how far you're willing to go to troll, or if you're being serious right now.

I've never claimed that we have never argued about anything. I said it hasn't happened enough for me to remember you. Hopefully I've argued with you every time we've interacted in the past.

I may not watch a lying thief brush his teeth every morning like you do, but I know one when I see one.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

So your contention is that, because the software contains a manual override feature, it's ethical to falsify labor times?

Maybe some jobs take longer than the book lists because of extenuating circumstances. That doesn't mean that you should, as a matter of practice, use this feature in order to bill for hours that were never worked.

You still don't get it, do you?

Those book times are not an industry standard, they are an approximation for how long the service will take a skilled mechanic.

Those book times are what I'm going to show my customers in their quote. I will not charge them more, I will not charge them less.

However, those book times at every business in the metro area are going to have an adjusted scale of 20-30% on top of them.

It isn't illegal, it doesn't make them crooks.

What you also don't know in that software, is that I can manually add or remove book hours on top of that for additional hours applied to the job.

For instance, in Alldata, it tells me to add .5 hours for R&R. I don't actually have to add that, unless I am R&R'ing the part. It allows for a number of configurations that are at the DISCRETION of the business, nothing else.

There is nothing unethical for scaling 10% book hour because your mechanics will take longer than those at a dealership.

There is nothing unethical about scaling 20% book hour because your mechanics are thorough.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I've never claimed that we have never argued about anything. I said it hasn't happened enough for me to remember you. Hopefully I've argued with you every time we've interacted in the past.

I may not watch a lying thief brush his teeth every morning like you do, but I know one when I see one.

So you're backpedaling on your Schwinn?

Glad we got that taken care of.

You seem to know a thief when you see one, perhaps it is because it takes one to know one?

All banter aside, I am no thief, I am perhaps the most absolutely bluntly honest person you will EVER meet. I don't lie, I don't hide, I call it how it is.

And in business, that translates to repeat customers. The fact that I am so thorough that I'd walk them through every step MYSELF is me extending MY services to them.

As a business, my time is precious, and since I do the best job, I'm going to charge you for it, because you aren't just paying for the job to get done. You're paying for the warranty, the liability, and for my 110% top notch service. You certainly aren't paying me for my time to fix it.

If you want to pay for actual time spent wrenching on a car, go find a mobile mechanic on craigslist, because you get what you pay for, and with me, you got only satisfaction, I made it my job to provide that.

[The Franchise]

So....say you hire me to build a website for you. I give you a quote that it will take me 8 hours of work to complete the job....but I do it in 5 hours. Should I charge you for 5 hours or 8?

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

You still don't get it, do you?

Those book times are not an industry standard, they are an approximation for how long the service will take a skilled mechanic.

Those book times are what I'm going to show my customers in their quote. I will not charge them more, I will not charge them less.

However, those book times at every business in the metro area are going to have an adjusted scale of 20-30% on top of them.

It isn't illegal, it doesn't make them crooks.

What you also don't know in that software, is that I can manually add or remove book hours on top of that for additional hours applied to the job.

For instance, in Alldata, it tells me to add .5 hours for R&R. I don't actually have to add that, unless I am R&R'ing the part. It allows for a number of configurations that are at the DISCRETION of the business, nothing else.

There is nothing unethical for scaling 10% book hour because your mechanics will take longer than those at a dealership.

There is nothing unethical about scaling 20% book hour because your mechanics are thorough.

If your mechanics are so thorough that it takes them an extra hour to do the job, so be it. That's not even what you're claiming. You say that you spend less time on it that the books say yet you charge for more time. You're a thief.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

So....say you hire me to build a website for you. I give you a quote that it will take me 8 hours of work to complete the job....but I do it in 5 hours. Should I charge you for 5 hours or 8?

If you quoted me 8 hours to build a website, and I hired you. I expect you to charge me for 8 hours. That is how contracts work. I have no lawful argument against it even if you told me it only took 5 hours, because I agreed to the contract. I'm not agreeing to the hours, I'm agreeing to the product, of which the price was X@8 hours.

[Old Dog]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

So....say you hire me to build a website for you. I give you a quote that it will take me 8 hours of work to complete the job....but I do it in 5 hours. Should I charge you for 5 hours or 8?

8, but not 10....which Extorter claimed with his additional 25%