Blockbuster "rumor" w/ Surtain?

**Anyong Bluth** · 04-19-2005, 05:46 AM

So there has been news of some supposed blockbuster deal with the Chiefs that will give them more 1st day picks....

I was thinking and wondered if it wouldn't be tied in with the Surtain deal - that is apperently mistakenly referred to...

Trade for Surtain and Miami's 1st (#2)

in exchange for

KC's 1st (#15) & 2nd (#46) & next year's 1st (#?)

With the 2nd pick - we obviously could then move down to pick up additonal picks in either 2nd or 3rd round and still be able to draft DJ or whoever is "1st" on their board!? I don't bother with the draft points - so you could adjust the Miami deal accordingly by KC getting a 3rd or us giving a lower pick or whatever to get it done.

Assuming we have a good year and they get this much help on D, we should have a fairly low 1st next year and the additions this year would be worth giving up next year's 1st. The ability to then move back and get more early round picks also benefits us in getting players that can make an impact faster?

To me this would be the best possible scenario - Surtain and our top guy (DJ for my $) and then slide down to get so more 1st day picks and possibly get 4 players within the 1st 3 rounds & Surtain.

**Manila-Chief** · 04-19-2005, 05:53 AM

How do we get DJ and then get additional picks? Wouldn't we have to trade the #2 to be able to move down?

I don't like the adding next year's 1st.

teedubya · 04-19-2005, 05:58 AM

Yesssssssssssssssssssss.

another Surtain thread.

tomahawk kid · 04-19-2005, 06:25 AM

Carl doesn't have the balls to pull of something even close to this.

We might get Surtan, but then we'll probably draft another project in Thomas Davis.

**Mr. Kotter** · 04-19-2005, 06:30 AM

Next year's first? No way this is happening....if it involves that.

RINGLEADER · 04-19-2005, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

Next year's first? No way this is happening....if it involves that.

Agree.

carlos3652 · 04-19-2005, 09:17 AM

Link: http://www.finheaven.com/news/2040/

Vikings Contact Dolphins About Trade ...
2005-04-18

[Miami Herald] Jason Cole reports the Dolphins have been contacted by Minnesota about a possible trade as the Vikings try to find a trading partner to move up from the No. 7 overall pick in the NFL draft to get Michigan receiver Braylon Edwards.

A Vikings source confirmed that the team has talked to San Francisco and Miami about a possible move. In addition, another source said Minnesota is also talking with Cleveland about the No. 3 pick.

The Vikings have the No. 7 and No. 18 picks, and will be looking for the cheapest trade among the top picks.

As for the Dolphins, having multiple suitors for the second pick overall can only help them. According to six NFL executives, the Dolphins have expressed a strong desire to trade the pick.

And Miami Fans talk about it:
http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/sh...ad.php?t=74831

**the Talking Can** · 04-19-2005, 06:30 AM

Why would we want the #2 pick?

No one in this draft is worth it. I seriously hope we don't do this.

**BigRedChief** · 04-19-2005, 07:14 AM

I think Miami would go for our #1, #2, #4, #5 and next years #3. In exchange we get Surtain. Draft Johnson at the #3 pick and pick up a wide reciever in the 3rd round.

With King Carls drafting record to get Surtain and Johnson out of a draft is more than his drafts usually produce.

It's also now or never or at least a while before we make a Super Bowl run again.

Chiefnj · 04-19-2005, 07:19 AM

Didn't this blockbuster rumor originate with Athan? I'll go check with PFT to see if it is true.

**the Talking Can** · 04-19-2005, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj

Didn't this blockbuster rumor originate with Athan? I'll go check with PFT to see if it is true.

yes, it is a version of something a warpaint reerun:

Athan has herpes

bigdogg:
"Many of you have said that a blockbuster must consist of a big time player or high draft pick. Well, I think that the blockbuster deal were working on right now is with Miami and it's for the #2 overall pick. That wouldn't surprise me!

Maybe...

Surtain, #2

for

#15, #46, 1st rounder next year

That would be work it, because we could trade down to Tampa Bay's pick and probably get a 1st rounder next year anyway. We would just hold those people to a ransom of a 1st rounder next year and somebody would take it...whether it be Tampa Bay or Minnesota. Cleveland is gonna take either Braylon Edwards or Alex Smith. I'm not worried about the possibility of DJ going there!"

htismaqe · 04-19-2005, 07:21 AM

As Can said, why the **** would we want the #2 pick in the draft? The best 2 defensive players on the board (Rolle and Johnson) could be had in the 5-8 range without giving up NEAR as much.

**Bob Dole** · 04-19-2005, 07:24 AM

"Blockbuster rumor" = People making shit up.

ROYC75 · 04-19-2005, 07:34 AM

Is that DVD or VCR ?

carlos3652 · 04-19-2005, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rufusmaqe

As Can said, why the **** would we want the #2 pick in the draft? The best 2 defensive players on the board (Rolle and Johnson) could be had in the 5-8 range without giving up NEAR as much.

To trade w/ TB or Minny, both are looking for WR and they want to pick before Cleveland... because they will take Edwards.... Minny has 2 #1 picks (#7 & #18) and probably a #3 rounder, TB has (#5) and they would give us an additional #2 and #3 for this trade.

If we trade w/ Minny we would have DJ @ #7 and then take the best player @ (Corner, LB, WR) #18, we get a defensive player that can get on the field this year (DJ) + Surtain + another starter either on D or O.

How would this not benefit the team?

04-19-2005, 05:46 AM	Topic Starter
Anyong Bluth Deus ambulans inter homines Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Casino cash: $9669340	Blockbuster "rumor" w/ Surtain? So there has been news of some supposed blockbuster deal with the Chiefs that will give them more 1st day picks.... I was thinking and wondered if it wouldn't be tied in with the Surtain deal - that is apperently mistakenly referred to... Trade for Surtain and Miami's 1st (#2) in exchange for KC's 1st (#15) & 2nd (#46) & next year's 1st (#?) With the 2nd pick - we obviously could then move down to pick up additonal picks in either 2nd or 3rd round and still be able to draft DJ or whoever is "1st" on their board!? I don't bother with the draft points - so you could adjust the Miami deal accordingly by KC getting a 3rd or us giving a lower pick or whatever to get it done. Assuming we have a good year and they get this much help on D, we should have a fairly low 1st next year and the additions this year would be worth giving up next year's 1st. The ability to then move back and get more early round picks also benefits us in getting players that can make an impact faster? To me this would be the best possible scenario - Surtain and our top guy (DJ for my $) and then slide down to get so more 1st day picks and possibly get 4 players within the 1st 3 rounds & Surtain.
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04-19-2005, 06:30 AM	#5
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04-19-2005, 09:17 AM	#7
carlos3652 El Diablo Join Date: Dec 2004 Casino cash: $4076679	Link: http://www.finheaven.com/news/2040/ Vikings Contact Dolphins About Trade ... 2005-04-18 [Miami Herald] Jason Cole reports the Dolphins have been contacted by Minnesota about a possible trade as the Vikings try to find a trading partner to move up from the No. 7 overall pick in the NFL draft to get Michigan receiver Braylon Edwards. A Vikings source confirmed that the team has talked to San Francisco and Miami about a possible move. In addition, another source said Minnesota is also talking with Cleveland about the No. 3 pick. The Vikings have the No. 7 and No. 18 picks, and will be looking for the cheapest trade among the top picks. As for the Dolphins, having multiple suitors for the second pick overall can only help them. According to six NFL executives, the Dolphins have expressed a strong desire to trade the pick. And Miami Fans talk about it: http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/sh...ad.php?t=74831 __________________
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04-19-2005, 06:30 AM	#8
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $10022208	Why would we want the #2 pick? No one in this draft is worth it. I seriously hope we don't do this. __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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04-19-2005, 07:14 AM	#9
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3139627 VARSITY	I think Miami would go for our #1, #2, #4, #5 and next years #3. In exchange we get Surtain. Draft Johnson at the #3 pick and pick up a wide reciever in the 3rd round. With King Carls drafting record to get Surtain and Johnson out of a draft is more than his drafts usually produce. It's also now or never or at least a while before we make a Super Bowl run again. __________________ Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. -YODA
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04-19-2005, 05:53 AM	#2
Manila-Chief Supporter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Memphis/Miss Casino cash: $10006883	How do we get DJ and then get additional picks? Wouldn't we have to trade the #2 to be able to move down? I don't like the adding next year's 1st.
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04-19-2005, 05:58 AM	#3
teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $9480002	Yesssssssssssssssssssss. another Surtain thread.
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04-19-2005, 06:25 AM	#4
tomahawk kid Drunk in the Neighborhood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Beating the War Drums Casino cash: $10001837	Carl doesn't have the balls to pull of something even close to this. We might get Surtan, but then we'll probably draft another project in Thomas Davis.
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04-19-2005, 07:19 AM	#10
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	Didn't this blockbuster rumor originate with Athan? I'll go check with PFT to see if it is true. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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04-19-2005, 07:21 AM	#12
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	As Can said, why the **** would we want the #2 pick in the draft? The best 2 defensive players on the board (Rolle and Johnson) could be had in the 5-8 range without giving up NEAR as much.
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04-19-2005, 07:24 AM	#13
Bob Dole King Shit of **** Mountain Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texarkana, Texas Casino cash: $2584497	"Blockbuster rumor" = People making shit up.
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04-19-2005, 07:34 AM	#14
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