**** OFFICIAL 2013-2014 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ****

[ArrowheadHawk]

#18 AP/ #20 Coaches (10-4,1-0)

Players

Spoiler!

Returning Players
1 Naadir Tharpe Guard 5-11 170 Jr.
3 Andrew White III Guard 6-6 210 So.
4 Justin Wesley Forward 6-9 220 RS Sr.
10 Evan Manning Guard 6-3 170 So.
11 Tyler Self Guard 6-2 165 So.
20 Niko Roberts Guard 5-11 175 Sr.
21 Christian Garrett Guard 6-3 185 Jr.
31 Jamari Traylor Forward 6-8 220 RS So.
33 Landen Lucas Forward 6-10 240 RS Fr.
34 Perry Ellis Forward 6-8 225 So.

Incoming Class
SF ***** Wayne Selden
C ***** Joel Embiid
PG **** Conner Frankamp
SF **** Brannen Greene
PG **** Frank Mason
SF ***** Andrew Wiggins

Transfers
Hunter Mickelson
Tarik Black

Non Conference
11/8/2013 Louisiana Monroe Lawrence, Kan. W(80-63) (1-0)
11/12/2013 Duke Chicago, Ill. W(94-83) (2-0)
11/19/2013 Iona Lawrence, Kan. W(86-66) (3-0)
11/22/2013 Towson W(88-58) (4-0)
11/28/2013 Wake Forest Paradise Island, Bahamas W(87-78) (5-0)
11/29/2013 Villanova Paradise Island, Bahamas L(59-63) (5-1)
11/30/2013 UTEP Paradise Island, Bahamas W(67-63) (6-1)
12/7/2013 Colorado Boulder, Colo. L(72-75) (6-2)
12/10/2013 Florida Gainesville, Fla. L(61-67) (6-3)
12/14/2013 New Mexico Kansas City, Mo. W(80-63)(7-3)
12/21/2013 Georgetown Lawrence, Kan. W(86-64)(8-3)
12/30/2013 Toledo Lawrence, Kan. W(93-83)(9-3)
1/5/2014 San Diego State Lawrence, Kan. L(57-61)(9-4)
Conference

Spoiler!

1/8/2014 Oklahoma Norman, Okla. W(90-83)(10-4,1-0)
1/11/2014 Kansas State Lawrence, Kan. 1 p.m.
1/13/2014 Iowa State Ames, Iowa 8 p.m.
1/18/2014 Oklahoma State Lawrence, Kan. 3 p.m.
1/20/2014 Baylor Lawrence, Kan. 8 p.m.
1/25/2014 TCU Fort Worth, Texas 8 p.m.
1/29/2014 Iowa State Lawrence, Kan. 8 p.m.
2/1/2014 Texas Austin, Texas 3 p.m.
2/4/2014 Baylor Waco, Texas 6 p.m.
2/8/2014 West Virginia Lawrence, Kan. 3 p.m.
2/10/2014 Kansas State Manhattan, Kan. 8 p.m.
2/15/2014 TCU Lawrence, Kan. 3 p.m.
2/18/2014 Texas Tech Lubbock, Texas 7 p.m.
2/22/2014 Texas Lawrence, Kan. 6:30 p.m.
2/24/2014 Oklahoma Lawrence, Kan. 8 p.m.
3/1/2014 Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. 8 p.m.
3/5/2014 Texas Tech Lawrence, Kan. 7 p.m.
3/8/2014 West Virginia Morgantown, W. Va. 11 a.m.
Big 12 Championship
3/12-15/2014 TBD Kansas City, Mo. TBD Details

[KC_Connection]

Laz went on his usual delusional shit fit about Self, I see. No surprise there.

[Chiefspants]

As expected, some (one) of your meltdowns were (was) predictably hilarious.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by chiefsfan987

I forgot, did they make their free throws on Self's Technical?

1 FT made. The technical was necessary at that stage of the game, I thought, though. Both to get his players to start caring and to turn the officiating tide (Nova was getting quite physical and was getting away with it).

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Silock

Our defense in the first half last night was stifling. I think Wigs' ceiling on d is higher, too. We certainly did not play as well in the second half, though.

But seriously, did you see how easily Butler guards were penetrating? Mason would have torn that up. It's no secret that OSU's weakness is in the paint.

Didn't watch the 2nd half of that game. OSU dominated them so thoroughly that I figured it wouldn't be close (guess I thought wrong).

Wiggins' ceiling may be higher on D than just about anybody, but he doesn't give the consistent defensive effort Smart does on every possession. There's a big difference between the two in that regard.

[Al Czervik]

Out rebounded by 9.....
FT's @ 60%......
38% from the field....

Usually results in a loss..
Kids are young....It will take a while but we have time.

about Self.....
Best ****ing thing that KU has going for them....Period

[ROYC75]

Oh my, I was so busy, I missed the game.

Sounds like it was a stinker!

[Silock]

Originally Posted by lewdog

You KU fans realize that while that was a tournament, it wasn't the "big" tournament? Like, the only meaningful one of the end of the year? You realize this is an early season loss with a young team, right?

Hey! Some people are trying to have a meltdown here!

It sucks, but guys . . . it's ****ing November on a team full of freshmen. RELAX.

In Self I trust.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Silock

Hey! Some people are trying to have a meltdown here!

It sucks, but guys . . . it's ****ing November on a team full of freshmen. RELAX.

In Self I trust.

This.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Didn't watch the 2nd half of that game. OSU dominated them so thoroughly that I figured it wouldn't be close (guess I thought wrong).

Wiggins' ceiling may be higher on D than just about anybody, but he doesn't give the consistent defensive effort Smart does on every possession. There's a big difference between the two in that regard.

I think/hope that Self will have Wiggins focused in by conference play.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

The youth in these kids showing a bit right here...

@F_Mason15: Some of KU fans <<<<<

Frank has to ignore the haters. He was the reason we were in it.

[RustShack]

I was hoping both of us would be undefeated for Big Monday. Now if Iowa wins tomorrow I'll get to hear their logic of how they are better than Kansas and the rest of the Big12.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by RustShack

I was hoping both of us would be undefeated for Big Monday. Now if Iowa wins tomorrow I'll get to hear their logic of how they are better than Kansas and the rest of the Big12.

I had a Nova fan tell me tonight that Jay is a better coach than Self and that they're a better program than KU. Two lessons...there are stupid sports fans out there and some people aren't worth spending time on. Don't listen to them, Rust.

[Imon Yourside]

you're welcome peeps, the sky was falling then i picked it back up and put it in it's place again.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by RustShack

I was hoping both of us would be undefeated for Big Monday. Now if Iowa wins tomorrow I'll get to hear their logic of how they are better than Kansas and the rest of the Big12.

There wasn't any realistic chance KU was going to be undefeated come January. Not with the toughest non-conference schedule in the nation and not with their youth. Wouldn't be at all surprising to see a few more losses before then.

[chiefsfan987]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

I had a Nova fan tell me tonight that Jay is a better coach than Self and that they're a better program than KU. Two lessons...there are stupid sports fans out there and some people aren't worth spending time on. Don't listen to them, Rust.

While they are without question not a better program than KU I would listen to the argument that Jay is a better coach. What is self's head to head record against him? I think it's a losing record. Sure, we've had more success in the tourney but Self does have more talent on his teams so we should be better in that. Either way they are both great coaches and you couldn't go wrong with either of them. I'd rather have Self but I think you could make an argument for Jay.