Royals Thoughts on Game 3 - Page 4

Why Not? · 10-29-2015, 11:47 PM

First thing, are the national media and fans ever going to learn? To be fair, I heard a lot about the Royals early in the day, but by the afternoon it was all about Syndergaard and how if he wins tomorrow, it's a new series, blah blah blah.

Syndergaard has great upside and has pitched well. However, he is clearly inferior to the two pitchers already seen and handled by the Royals. He went 9-7 with a 3.24 era. Hardly Clemens mid to late 80's there. He also has thrown about 30 more innings this year than last, and his best pitch is a plus plus fastball. You know how we handle that. Additionally he is a rookie making his first WS start Under immense pressure. Make no mistake, this is as good as an elimination game for the Mets.

For the above reasons, I think we have the pitching matchup in our favor for this game. No doubt, Ventura has been inconsistent this year and it's been awhile since his last dominant start, but a few things work in his favor:

A)This is his 3rd WS and 9th overall postseason start. You hear from players all the time that there is nothing like post season experience. Syndergaard has had two playoff starts. Game 2 against LA 6 1/3 3 ER and a loss. Decent start. K'd 9 and walked 4. Betcha both of those totals take a nosedive in this game. His 2nd start was game 2 of the NLCS where he went 5 2/3 dominant innings with 1 ER 1 walk and another 9 K. The innings pitched is the main point here. My whole theory has been that out starters did not have to out pitch their Met counterparts, just match them. Volquez did that to a T in game 1 and Cueto obviously out pitched De Grom in game 2. So, can Ventura match Syndergaard for 6 innings? I think he can because

B)Remember, this was supposed to be our ace this year. That didn't quite work out but we all know Ventura has it in him to go 7 shutout innings. He is a pretty emotional guy who looks for reasons to fire himself up. Here are two that I am sure he has to be aware off. First off, literally everyone is talking about how great the guy who is going to save the season for the Mets is. Not much being said about the guy who is pitching for the team up 2-0, going for a kill shot. If I'm Dave Eiland or Salvy or Cueto, I make sure Ace knows that. Secondly, this is a legend play for Ventura. This has a chance to be the last meaningful game of the 2015 WS. I know, you know, the Mets know, the Royals know, everybody knows this series is over at 3-0. The Royals can forfeit games 4 and 5 and the series is still over and we all know it. Last year, Ventura could only look on as the game 7 he got the team to, played out. That had to hurt. Tomorrow(tonight for you guys), for all intents and purposes, he can end the World Series.

C)Volquez, Ventura and Cueto seem really close and like to pick each other up. You saw how Cueto pitched dedicating himself to pitching for Edison's dad. I'm sure Ventura wants to follow suit

And finally,

D)um, the Mets lineup still kinda sucks. Clearly, this was an offensive one trick pony. Keep Murphy in the park, the Mets struggle. Again, much of what I heard on national radio today was how the Mets hitters will be much more comfortable at home and find their grove. I think that's silly. Baseball is baseball. See the ball and hit it. Where you play the game has no ability to influence how you hit a baseball. It may have some influence on what happens to a ball after you hit it(ala Rogers Center or Minute Maid)but the Mets are just not a great lineup. Again, match Syndergaard,go 6 strong and get it to the rested bullpen

This is the chance to step on their throat. Do not give them a single shred of hope. Win tomorrow and the only question remaining is, what day is the parade??

I say Royals 5-2. What say you?

Why Not? · 10-30-2015, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by booger

Wtf is a met anyway?

Short for Metropolatin or however you spell it

booger · 10-30-2015, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

A city slicker.

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Originally Posted by Why Not?

Short for Metropolatin or however you spell it

East coast freaks! Stupid name for a baseball team

Why Not? · 10-30-2015, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations

Yep, with Madson (who had a great stretch earlier in the year) and Morales out of the equation our bullpen should be much better tomorrow. My main concern is our struggles vs lefties.

Well we did beat Sale and Keuchel this year. Plus pounded Price once in the regular season and basically beat him twice in the playoffs. Matz is 0-1 with a 3.72 era in the post season. This game will again be about if our pitcher(CY)can give us 4-5 shutout or 1 run innings

DRU · 10-30-2015, 09:31 PM

That was a bummer.

Great Expectations · 10-30-2015, 09:33 PM

If we don't win tomorrow whomever wins game 5 will probably win the series. I think we get one great start from Cueto/Ventura and one awful one, both have been either great or terrible.

Instead of using everyone a little bit tonight I wish we would've burned one guy and had multiple people very fresh. Hopefully Ned has his warlock voodoo going strong. Can we put him on a jet to NOLA real quick?

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-30-2015, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by booger

Wtf is a met anyway?

This is funny because my 72 yr old mother asked me the same thing. LOL

**007** · 10-31-2015, 01:26 AM

Whats a Knick?

Yes I know it was short for knickerbockers but WTF kind of name is that for a basketball team.

**Baby Lee** · 10-31-2015, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru

Whats a Knick?

Yes I know it was short for knickerbockers but WTF kind of name is that for a basketball team.

Effing Dutch and their short pants. Goes back to when they settled New Amsterdam [NYC]. The Knickerbocker name was a common Dutch surname, and they dressed in the short pants, so that style of dress was named after it. Just like your underwear is called your knickers.
Came to be shorthand for longtime residents of NA/NY through many generations, kind of like the DAR, to differentiate from newer immigrants and migrants to the area as it became a metropolis.

**007** · 10-31-2015, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Effing Dutch and their short pants. Goes back to when they settled New Amsterdam [NYC]. The Knickerbocker name was a common Dutch surname, and they dressed in the short pants, so that style of dress was named after it. Just like your underwear is called your knickers.
Came to be shorthand for longtime residents of NA/NY through many generations.

I think they should be called the knickerbockers then. **** New Yowk

NJChiefsFan · 10-31-2015, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by booger

East coast freaks! Stupid name for a baseball team

I believe they wanted to unite the Dodger and Giants fans after both teams left for California. Hence the mixed Dodger and Giants colors.

Prison Bitch · 10-31-2015, 09:26 AM

Last year we led 2-1 also. Lost 3/4 to lose the Series.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-31-2015, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Last year we led 2-1 also. Lost 3/4 to lose the Series.

They lost game 3 vs Toronto, too. Came back the next day and pushed their shit in.

Your point?

Why Not? · 10-31-2015, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Last year we led 2-1 also. Lost 3/4 to lose the Series.

Entirely different scenario. Last year we lost game 1 at home, allowing SF to meet their goal of a split of the first two, so when we went to SF and hit the usual goal of winning 1 of the mid 3 on the road, we had to be perfect in the final two including knowing we were facing Madbum at some point in game 7.

Bumgarner pushed our shit in all series. We've scored more runs off of every one of the Mets big 3 then we did off of Him in like 20 innings or whatever it is.

It would be huge to win one in NY since not doing so would leave no room for error in the last 2 games, but having seen the big 3 once, none of em scare me or I doubt any of the Royals like Madbum last year

**srvy** · 10-31-2015, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by booger

Wtf is a met anyway?

Metropolitan

They shortened it to Mets.

**MahiMike** · 10-31-2015, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not?

Man I was way off about soon to be perennial #3 pitcher Ventura. What an egg that guy laid. Then Ned decided to fold up shop early by pitching a dude who should only appear in 14-2 games

Yeah I'm quite pissed at ventura. That guy is a thrower - not a pitcher. Need an upgrade there.

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