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**the Talking Can** · 01-04-2005, 11:59 AM

610 and probably 810

|Zach| · 01-04-2005, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MGRS13

What was up with the last comment by CP "everyone on this staff including the president GM is in the last year of thier contract." Was CP saying "hey me and Dick and a bunch of Lamar's money are out of here in a year so we don't care what happens to this team." Or was he saying "this is it, one last hurrah, I don't care about salary cap hell whatever it takes." Either way it was a really shaddy comment to end on of course this is vintage carl.

Seemed like he was stating a fact.

Coogs · 01-04-2005, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 2bikemike

Their defense has improved quite a bit. Maybe not to the same extent as their offense but both made the necessary improvements. While we fugging stood pat.

Exactly!

Just saw CP on the local sports reports say the part where we are pretty much going to stand pat next year too!

TEX · 01-04-2005, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Exactly!

Just saw CP on the local sports reports say the part where we are pretty much going to stand pat next year too!

No FKN way!

|Zach| · 01-04-2005, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Exactly!

Just saw CP on the local sports reports say the part where we are pretty much going to stand pat next year too!

There have been those who heard him on the radio say the oppisite...

TEX · 01-04-2005, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 2bikemike

Their defense has improved quite a bit. Maybe not to the same extent as their offense but both made the necessary improvements. While we fugging stood pat.

Their past draft picks also contributed heavily.

Course I would say ours would too IF we were picking top 6 every year, but then I think of Ryan Sims and kind of wonder.

brent102fire · 01-04-2005, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB

"Drafting 15th, and we have 9 choices. We will get a very good football player at 15. Will he make an immediate impact? We don't know that yet."

CP is going to trade that pick for a 2nd and 3rd

TEX · 01-04-2005, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB

He equates effort with "good". That's a problem.

You nailed it.

TEX · 01-04-2005, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB

Unfortunately, it's the truth. He talked about the dead money associated with cutting the guys we just signed last offseason.

Another example of how standing pat fuckS you up for more than just 1 season. I've heard the argumant that big-time free agents rarely pan out, but neither does re-signing your own crappy players who have proven that they're total $hit for 3 or more seasons in a row.

Coogs · 01-04-2005, 08:41 PM

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No FKN way!

Yep! Said when we signed all our own guys it wasn't for a 1 year deal. With all the signing bonuses, we would have dead money against the cap if we cut them all now.

milkman · 01-04-2005, 09:11 PM

I don't have anything to add.

I just want to say I truly despise Carl and Dick, and think that one more year of these guys is 17 and 5 years too many, respectively.

Alphaman · 01-04-2005, 09:11 PM

Calm down a bit guys. Carl said he'd like to give them 1 more year. That doesn't mean he'll be able to. He was talking about the guys he re-signed last year. He can't cut them all, but he can cut one or two.

Also, that doesn't indicate standing pat. The guys re-signed last year were Hicks, Woods, Wesley and Bartee. Bartee is probably the easiest to cut and will probably be so. So let's say they give Hicks, Woods and Wesley another year to live up to their contracts. They can still sign 2 LBs and a CB in free agency PLUS draft a DE and CB in the 1st 2 rounds of the draft and drastically improve the defense:

For example, if the defense looks like this next year, it would be a pretty good defense:

Hicks, Dalton, Sims, Allen
Fujita, Bell, Peterson
Warfield, Wesley, Woods, Lucas

Nickel CB - Carlos Rogers
Backup DE - Chris Canty

That's 3 new starters and 2 new players in the rotation replacing McCleon, Bartee, Barber, Mitchell and Holiday.

milkman · 01-04-2005, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphaman

Calm down a bit guys. Carl said he'd like to give them 1 more year. That doesn't mean he'll be able to. He was talking about the guys he re-signed last year. He can't cut them all, but he can cut one or two.

Also, that doesn't indicate standing pat. The guys re-signed last year were Hicks, Woods, Wesley and Bartee. Bartee is probably the easiest to cut and will probably be so. So let's say they give Hicks, Woods and Wesley another year to live up to their contracts. They can still sign 2 LBs and a CB in free agency PLUS draft a DE and CB in the 1st 2 rounds of the draft and drastically improve the defense:

For example, if the defense looks like this next year, it would be a pretty good defense:

Hicks, Dalton, Sims, Allen
Fujita, Bell, Peterson
Warfield, Wesley, Woods, Lucas

Nickel CB - Carlos Rogers
Backup DE - Chris Canty

That's 3 new starters and 2 new players in the rotation replacing McCleon, Bartee, Barber, Mitchell and Holiday.

I think, if we were talking about a GM of another team, this would make a lot of sence.

But this is Carl we're talking about.
He's talking this way, so that when he doesn't sign any impact type FAs, he can say he told us that because of the contract extensions signed before this season, that he wouldn't be able to anything in this offseason.

He's spinning pre-offseason excuses.

Logical · 01-04-2005, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MGRS13

What was up with the last comment by CP "everyone on this staff including the president GM is in the last year of thier contract." Was CP saying "hey me and Dick and a bunch of Lamar's money are out of here in a year so we don't care what happens to this team." Or was he saying "this is it, one last hurrah, I don't care about salary cap hell whatever it takes." Either way it was a really shaddy comment to end on of course this is vintage carl.

Far more likely what I have bolded rather than the latter.

theultimatekcchiefsfan · 01-04-2005, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB

Just said Green has played more games consecutively than any QB in the history of the league. Um, have you heard of a fellow by the name of Brett Favre?

I believe he meant to say the most games consecutively with the worst defense in the league on your side.............

DaWolf · 01-05-2005, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MGRS13

What was up with the last comment by CP "everyone on this staff including the president GM is in the last year of thier contract." Was CP saying "hey me and Dick and a bunch of Lamar's money are out of here in a year so we don't care what happens to this team." Or was he saying "this is it, one last hurrah, I don't care about salary cap hell whatever it takes." Either way it was a really shaddy comment to end on of course this is vintage carl.

I took it as more of a statement saying that if they didn't get the job done in '05, then Lamar ain't gonna be extending any contracts. That may or may not be true, but that's probably how Carl intended for it to come off, as though he was saying they all better get the job done...

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Alphaman Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Austin, TX, USA Casino cash: $10004900	Calm down a bit guys. Carl said he'd like to give them 1 more year. That doesn't mean he'll be able to. He was talking about the guys he re-signed last year. He can't cut them all, but he can cut one or two. Also, that doesn't indicate standing pat. The guys re-signed last year were Hicks, Woods, Wesley and Bartee. Bartee is probably the easiest to cut and will probably be so. So let's say they give Hicks, Woods and Wesley another year to live up to their contracts. They can still sign 2 LBs and a CB in free agency PLUS draft a DE and CB in the 1st 2 rounds of the draft and drastically improve the defense: For example, if the defense looks like this next year, it would be a pretty good defense: Hicks, Dalton, Sims, Allen Fujita, Bell, Peterson Warfield, Wesley, Woods, Lucas Nickel CB - Carlos Rogers Backup DE - Chris Canty That's 3 new starters and 2 new players in the rotation replacing McCleon, Bartee, Barber, Mitchell and Holiday.
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