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Old 02-27-2013, 10:59 AM  
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Alex Smith Traded to Chiefs
Well, it looks like the deal is done.



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49ers have completed a trade with the Chiefs for Alex Smith, tho can't be official til March 12. Chiefs really made a commitment to Smith


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Deal has been agreed upon between Chiefs and 49ers. Compensation unclear but I'm told again Chiefs have made a clear commitment to Smith.
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Old 08-26-2013, 05:33 PM   #5521
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I've said it a couple of times in different threads, but I contend at this point that the difference in value between those guys is almost exclusively their respective floors.

Bray's is obviously significantly lower than Geno's. But at a point I have to ask the guys that say "Elite or Bust!" why they give a shit about floors? Geno's much more likely to settle in as a decent QB than Bray. In fact, he sure looks like a guy that could turn into the next Alex Smith if he learns to read a whiteboard.

But if we can skip the development curve and get a QB with similar or better upside in Bray - why not do that?

We got Geno's much more desirable 'floor' covered by acquiring Alex and we got similar long-term upside, IMO by acquiring Bray. So from where I sit, this was a best of both worlds scenario.
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Although I don't think some here agree with that, but I think it's mostly emotional
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Old 08-26-2013, 05:34 PM   #5522
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Barkley didn't do much against NE. He played alright against Carolina but was clearly outplayed by Vick and Foles, who were outstanding. So it makes you wonder if maybe Carolina just sucked that day.
Vick and Foles were outstanding against Jacksonville as well.
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Old 08-26-2013, 05:37 PM   #5523
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I've said it a couple of times in different threads, but I contend at this point that the difference in value between those guys is almost exclusively their respective floors.

Bray's is obviously significantly lower than Geno's. But at a point I have to ask the guys that say "Elite or Bust!" why they give a shit about floors? Geno's much more likely to settle in as a decent QB than Bray. In fact, he sure looks like a guy that could turn into the next Alex Smith if he learns to read a whiteboard.

But if we can skip the development curve and get a QB with similar or better upside in Bray - why not do that?

We got Geno's much more desirable 'floor' covered by acquiring Alex and we got similar long-term upside, IMO by acquiring Bray. So from where I sit, this was a best of both worlds scenario.
I would go ahead and add that a QB's "floor" is the single most worthless asset he can have.

I don't want a QB with a high floor. I want one with no limit either direction. I want him to be able to be a hall of famer or a flaming bag of shit.

I don't want Chad Pennington. I don't want Matt Schaub. If he's not going to be excellent, then I want him to completely ****ing suck. This does two things:

1. Makes it completely clear he must be replaced.
2. Moves into a draft spot to replace him.

Let me put it this way. Matt Cassel's worst year as a Chief was 2010, because it bought him two more years.
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Old 08-26-2013, 05:37 PM   #5524
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Because there was even 1 person calling the Davis pick a good one, right?

If you pick Barkley there, you likely still have the opportunity to draft Davis in the 6th instead of the FB who just got cut.
I loved the Knile Davis pick at the draft. Of course I would have took Barkley 1.1.
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Old 08-26-2013, 05:42 PM   #5525
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I loved the Knile Davis pick at the draft. Of course I would have took Barkley 1.1.
The Knile Davis pick made a ton of sense and he's most certainly shown that he was worthy of that selection.

He'll likely be responsible for at least one win this year on special teams.
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Old 08-26-2013, 05:42 PM   #5526
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I would go ahead and add that a QB's "floor" is the single most worthless asset he can have.

I don't want a QB with a high floor. I want one with no limit either direction. I want him to be able to be a hall of famer or a flaming bag of shit.

I don't want Chad Pennington. I don't want Matt Schaub. If he's not going to be excellent, then I want him to completely ****ing suck. This does two things:

1. Makes it completely clear he must be replaced.
2. Moves into a draft spot to replace him.

Let me put it this way. Matt Cassel's worst year as a Chief was 2010, because it bought him two more years.
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Old 08-26-2013, 05:46 PM   #5527
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The Knile Davis pick made a ton of sense and he's most certainly shown that he was worthy of that selection.

He'll likely be responsible for at least one win this year on special teams.
Don't know about you, but I'm excited with him returning kicks and if he can make his fumbling quiet down its gona be a fine pick
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He has had about ten or more user names.


Reminds me of someone else around here...
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Oh come on. Did you see the pm I sent you?

And really?
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Old 08-26-2013, 06:23 PM   #5529
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Oh come on. Did you see the pm I sent you?

And really?
I saw it.

Just saying dude there are obvious similarities. No wonder almost everyone hated you around here. Pick something and stick with it and people will respect you more.

You don't know what we dealt with from black bob/woodchuck.etc.

Then we get a guy alexsmithfan, or whatever you were/snoopy, etc...


Another similarity. Second user name was an animal.
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Don't know about you, but I'm excited with him returning kicks and if he can make his fumbling quiet down its gona be a fine pick
On that last fumble- he did have both hands on the ball- it was pretty much an excellent hit. He more than made up for it

109 yards!!!
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I saw it.

Just saying dude there are obvious similarities. No wonder almost everyone hated you around here. Pick something and stick with it and people will respect you more.

You don't know what we dealt with from black bob/woodchuck.etc.

Then we get a guy alexsmithfan, or whatever you were/snoopy, etc...


Another similarity. Second user name was an animal.
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ahhh indeed. I have been trying really hard to stay out of stuff, and just talk football. I get caught up occasionally with Clay, but hes on ignore now, today has been a good day.....
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On that last fumble- he did have both hands on the ball- it was pretty much an excellent hit. He more than made up for it

109 yards!!!
No, no he didn't.
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ahhh indeed. I have been trying really hard to stay out of stuff, and just talk football. I get caught up occasionally with Clay, but hes on ignore now, today has been a good day.....
You should try harder. Maybe start by ignoring all the other assholes that followed you here.
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