Chiefs If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. - Page 113

ShowtimeSBMVP · 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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jd1020 · 05-13-2013, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

It's going to tell Andy Reid whether he thinks Alex Smith is his multi-year answer or whether he needs to look around for an alternative. The final record isn't the measure of merit for that determination.

Oh cool.

So here we are... sitting around waiting to see if Alex Smith will make it in his 9th season and if he doesn't we're hoping that a UDFA QB gets his head out of his ass and becomes the next Kurt Warner. And if said scenario falls apart in midair we'll once again be looking for the next reject for the 2015 season and some 3rd day developmental QB.

**** YA!

Which backups contracts are ending after the 2014 season? Who's going to be our next QB?

Rasputin · 05-13-2013, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Pffft..

Just wait for the excuses if we go 6-10 or 7-9.

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

They are already being typed
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[QUOTE=patteeu;9679069]We've got an entire team that knows how to lose but may not know how to win yet. It's not like this team was a plug and play QB away last year. There's a wide range of possible outcomes for this coming season that have little or nothing to do with how well Alex Smith plays.[/QUOTE]

Wow your right JASONSAUTO the quarterback doesn't even have to play any good to get a pass for being our quarterback. The quarterback has little to do with the outcomes of games. What am I freaking out for?

patteeu · 05-13-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Oh cool.

So here we are... sitting around waiting to see if Alex Smith will make it in his 9th season and if he doesn't we're hoping that a UDFA QB gets his head out of his ass and becomes the next Kurt Warner. And if said scenario falls apart in midair we'll once again be looking for the next reject for the 2015 season and some 3rd day developmental QB.

**** YA!

Which backups contracts are ending after the 2014 season? Who's going to be our next QB?

I wouldn't worry too much about that. Alex Smith will be here for a while.

jd1020 · 05-13-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

I wouldn't worry too much about that. Alex Smith will be here for a while.

BigCatDaddy · 05-13-2013, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac

Thanks guys. However, I fully understand the difference between "a first round pick" and "the Chiefs first round pick". The Chiefs didn't have a hypothetical first round pick this year. They had the #1 overall pick.

If you want to continue to misrepresent the trade, then by all means feel free to do so.

So you do understand they gave up what would essentially be around the 25th pick in the draft this year, yes?

Dorsey loves dumbasses like you that fall for hit "Smith was our 2nd round pick"shit.

Now just change your user name to "Dumbass", post a pictured of yourself as your avi, and walk away.

Sandy Vagina · 05-13-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

I wouldn't worry too much about that. Alex Smith will be here for a while.

Yep. I am glad some of us will be enjoying the Chiefs season!

BigCatDaddy · 05-13-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Yep. I am glad some of us will be enjoying the Chiefs season!

Yep, me to. Either the Chiefs play great or Alice falls flat on his glass ass. Either will be a joy to watch so it's a win win.

ayleswbj · 05-13-2013, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Yep, me to. Either the Chiefs play great or Alice falls flat on his glass ass. Either will be a joy to watch so it's a win win.

I really dont get the whole "glass' or "injury prone" bit. His shoulder injury is going on 5 years now. That is a life time in the NFL. The shoulder is long behind him. What can you do about concussions in todays NFL? That the game we live in today. Your gonna sit, He was cleared to play the week after, Harbaugh had his window and went with it. To say he is injury prone is kinda outawhack.

BigCatDaddy · 05-13-2013, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ayleswbj

I really dont get the whole "glass' or "injury prone" bit. His shoulder injury is going on 5 years now. That is a life time in the NFL. The shoulder is long behind him. What can you do about concussions in todays NFL? That the game we live in today. Your gonna sit, He was cleared to play the week after, Harbaugh had his window and went with it. To say he is injury prone is kinda outawhack.

He just has a shitty record for playing 16 games, but I guess a lot of those were games he was benched was stallions such as O'Sullivan, Troy Smith, and Shaun Hill.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 05-13-2013, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ayleswbj

I really dont get the whole "glass' or "injury prone" bit. His shoulder injury is going on 5 years now. That is a life time in the NFL. The shoulder is long behind him. What can you do about concussions in todays NFL? That the game we live in today. Your gonna sit, He was cleared to play the week after, Harbaugh had his window and went with it. To say he is injury prone is kinda outawhack.

To say he's injury prone is spot-****ing on.

80 games played in 7 seasons. 11.4 per year.

Last I checked, the NFL plays 16 games per season.

So Alex Smith is missing over 4 games PER SEASON.

Only on CP can a guy miss 25% of his games and people say that the injury prone label is "kinda outawhack".

Or would you rather point out that he's missed games because he's been benched for scrubs like Shaun Hill?

ayleswbj · 05-13-2013, 03:33 PM

yea i will point that out, injured injured is the point not benched

jd1020 · 05-13-2013, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ayleswbj

yea i will point that out, injured injured is the point not benched

So he's either been injured or not good enough to start.

Sounds like a sound 2 2nd round pick investment.

MagicHef · 05-13-2013, 03:37 PM

I did a linear regression between pass attempts per game and various stats per attempt for Alex. Someone mentioned that Reid typically called 35 passes per game, so I based it on that number.

If you base it on his entire career, you could expect:

3661 yards, 25 TDs, 10 INTs, 1 Fumble, and 24 Sacks.

I think Chiefs fans would be very happy with that. However, it is kind of skewed by a horrible rookie season with very few attempts. If you limit it to the last 4 seasons to cover his career after his injury, you get:

3498 yards, 22 TDs, 17 INTs, 5 Fumbles, and 32 Sacks.

That seems pretty realistic.

ayleswbj · 05-13-2013, 03:39 PM

Just on the flip side, He is also one the only QBs in the History of the NFL to start and play every single snap of a an entire season. Tom Brady had a fluke knee injury, im sure youve seen the hit. So did Smith, Take a look at Rocky Bernard's hit on Smith. Smith was bench a few times just because like many coaches they want to make a point. Can you really argue troy smith gave them a better chance to win. No, Singletary was a bumbling fool who wanted to try an take control and make an example. You can also make the argument the Shaun Hill got the job because he played in Martz system 2 years. Its a vicious cycle of devils advocate. The reality is his shoulder is healthy and his arm is fine.

Sandy Vagina · 05-13-2013, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

I did a linear regression between pass attempts per game and various stats per attempt for Alex. Someone mentioned that Reid typically called 35 passes per game, so I based it on that number.

If you base it on his entire career, you could expect:

3661 yards, 25 TDs, 10 INTs, 1 Fumble, and 24 Sacks.

I think Chiefs fans would be very happy with that. However, it is kind of skewed by a horrible rookie season with very few attempts. If you limit it to the last 4 seasons to cover his career after his injury, you get:

3498 yards, 22 TDs, 17 INTs, 5 Fumbles, and 32 Sacks.

That seems pretty realistic.

The INTs seem very high... but otherwise, yes. He'll probably have more yards under Reid too.

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MagicHef The Seated Villain Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle Casino cash: $2490247	I did a linear regression between pass attempts per game and various stats per attempt for Alex. Someone mentioned that Reid typically called 35 passes per game, so I based it on that number. If you base it on his entire career, you could expect: 3661 yards, 25 TDs, 10 INTs, 1 Fumble, and 24 Sacks. I think Chiefs fans would be very happy with that. However, it is kind of skewed by a horrible rookie season with very few attempts. If you limit it to the last 4 seasons to cover his career after his injury, you get: 3498 yards, 22 TDs, 17 INTs, 5 Fumbles, and 32 Sacks. That seems pretty realistic.
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ayleswbj Starter Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $10005287	Just on the flip side, He is also one the only QBs in the History of the NFL to start and play every single snap of a an entire season. Tom Brady had a fluke knee injury, im sure youve seen the hit. So did Smith, Take a look at Rocky Bernard's hit on Smith. Smith was bench a few times just because like many coaches they want to make a point. Can you really argue troy smith gave them a better chance to win. No, Singletary was a bumbling fool who wanted to try an take control and make an example. You can also make the argument the Shaun Hill got the job because he played in Martz system 2 years. Its a vicious cycle of devils advocate. The reality is his shoulder is healthy and his arm is fine.
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