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Old 11-29-2012, 09:23 PM   #1
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We have guys with the physical tools. Poe, Bailey, Smith and ropatuti Pototujvdfdgg all would have potential to be above average 1 gap players and Poe and Bailey have massive upside in that role.
Bailey and Ropati ****ing suck.

They don't put pressure on the QB. Period. Do I need to cite PPF ratings? Jesus Christ, dude.

Shaun Smith is garbage off the street.

The ONLY GUY on this roster with potential in this area is Poe.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:46 PM   #2
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Bailey and Ropati ****ing suck.

They don't put pressure on the QB. Period. Do I need to cite PPF ratings? Jesus Christ, dude.

Shaun Smith is garbage off the street.

The ONLY GUY on this roster with potential in this area is Poe.
Don't be obtuse. Citing PFF ratings of defensive linemen in their first two years is pointless.

Smith and Pitituvdfafgc have both shown the ability to push the pocket, too.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:49 PM   #3
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Don't be obtuse. Citing PFF ratings of defensive linemen in their first two years is pointless.

Smith and Pitituvdfafgc have both shown the ability to push the pocket, too.
Whatever. They're two of the lowest rated pass rushers on PFF.

They have shown NOTHING, so you prognosticating them as some kind of solution is total bullshit.

You've been pimping Bailey since he was drafted and he has done absolutely jack shit in the NFL.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:58 PM   #4
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Whatever. They're two of the lowest rated pass rushers on PFF.

They have shown NOTHING, so you prognosticating them as some kind of solution is total bullshit.

You've been pimping Bailey since he was drafted and he has done absolutely jack shit in the NFL.
This is his second year and he has been misused, IMO. Both of those factors work against him. He is a 290 pound monster with massive strength and really good mobility. That's EXACTLY what you look for in a DE for a 3-4 zone blitzing defense.

Re-sign Dorsey for a year and throw him in the middle in the Casey Hampton role and I think that 3 man DL could be pretty good.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:59 PM   #5
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This is his second year and he has been misused, IMO. Both of those factors work against him. He is a 290 pound monster with massive strength and really good mobility. That's EXACTLY what you look for in a DE for a 3-4 zone blitzing defense.
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He has shit mobility. He's frequently matched up one on one with linemen and shows zero pass rush ability.

Come on.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:04 PM   #6
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He has shit mobility. He's frequently matched up one on one with linemen and shows zero pass rush ability.

Come on.
FFS you have no clue what his responsibility is on any given play and most of the time, his job is to hold the line, not push it.

Gilberry could get to the QB and what did that get him?

Free agency.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:07 PM   #7
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FFS you have no clue what his responsibility is on any given play and most of the time, his job is to hold the line, not push it.
The ****, dude? He's a third-down pass rusher lined up one one one against linemen. He's supposed to ****ing put pressure on the QB. He sucks at it.

You know who the two lowest rated 3-4 ends in terms of pass rush productivity are on PFF?

Tyson Jackson and Allen Bailey.

Keep ignoring the data.
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Bailey and Ropati ****ing suck.

They don't put pressure on the QB. Period. Do I need to cite PPF ratings? Jesus Christ, dude.

Shaun Smith is garbage off the street.

The ONLY GUY on this roster with potential in this area is Poe.
As GoChiefs will tell you, I'm probably the biggest Bailey homer here. He had some excellent flashes against NE, Pitt, Chi, and GB.

That being said, he needs to be upgraded. I don't want to cut him, but we definitely need to upgrade the 3-tech either via FA or the draft, preferably FA for now and the draft next year, unless Richardson falls to us.
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