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Old 02-18-2013, 01:33 PM  
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****Official **** You Mike Mayock Thread**** (OP UPDATED)

http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000140130/

The Kansas City Chiefs need a quarterback, but there aren't any this season that look like a top-ten talent, much less a No. 1 overall pick.

The way Mike Mayock sees it, the Chiefs should be looking to the offensive line for their first overall pick. And there are only four players worth the No. 1 overall pick in this draft for Kansas City: Alabama guard Chance Warmack, UNC guard Jonathan Cooper, Texas A&M tackle Luke Joekel, or Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher.

Mayock said on a conference call Monday that some people will say he's crazy to potentially take a guard at No. 1 overall, but Mayock says Warmack is the best player in this draft. So he doesn't see it as crazy at all.

In the end, Mayock believes the pick could come down to Joekel or Warmack. This is a draft where the top-shelf players don't stand apart too much, and there may not be a huge difference between picks 5 and 25. That makes it a tricky spot for the Chiefs.

Don't be surprised if Kansas City builds from the inside out, and finds their quarterback of the future later.



He gives the Chiefs 4 options at #1 and they're all offensive lineman? Go **** yourself bro

@Jacobs71: Here is what Mayock said on #Chiefs pick in full "Well, part of it depends on what they're going to do with free agency and Branden Albert."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think the answer to that, obviously, is going to give you the answer. Sitting where they are, let's face it, they need a QB."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"We don't know that there are a lot of people who think Geno Smith is in that ballpark."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't, but there are a lot of people that think he should be considered."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"When you look at what they're going to do, what are they going to do with Dwayne Bowe?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" Whoever the quarterback is, they need a wide receiver. And I think John Dorsey has to be thinking what is the big picture here?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I've got one, and I've got 34. What is the best combination of getting the most value out of that?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"And I think that offensive lineman at 1 is the most solid guy they can go with."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't care whether it's Warmack or Joeckel. People will tell me I'm crazy that a guard can't go No. 1."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think he's the best player in the draft, so I would argue that."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:" But either way, I think they've got to get an offensive lineman and come back at 33 and prepare to go with a QB or WR."

@Jacobs71: When I asked Mayock about who fits Reid's system at QB: " I think Matt Barkley makes a lot of sense."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" He's a guy as a junior at USC looked so much different than he did this year."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"With Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson, I think all three of those guys you have to go back and watch junior tape. "

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" So I think Barkley fits what he does. I think Ryan Nassib fits what he does."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson both can fit what he does."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"So of those, that group of guys of the top seven, eight quarterbacks, I think those are the guys that did it most efficiently."

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Old 02-18-2013, 07:04 PM   #271
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I hope luck turns out to be a ****in bust and RGIII has an injury plagued career....will people then? Nobody thought Russell Wilson was a first rounder either...Who gives a **** what these no nothing muthafukkas think? They certainly are ignorant when it comes to the Chiefs. All year, that's all you heard, KC needs a QB but now we shouldn't draft one?
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:05 PM   #272
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And we are back to the "because they do it for a living, they have an expertise at it".
You've got it backward. They do it for a living, because they have expertise at it.

We aren't back to anything.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:06 PM   #273
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You've got it backward. They do it for a living, because they have expertise at it.

We aren't back to anything.
Thats not exactly true. Some have proven to be that way, but there is too much nepotism in the NFL for that to happen.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:17 PM   #274
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I don't know, and I don't care.

He's 7 years into his career and will probably never win a Super Bowl.

Because QB is law.

And I am the judge.

And Mike Mayock is GUILTY.
It wasn't an attempt to discredit your point. I was just curious.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:17 PM   #275
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Thats not exactly true. Some have proven to be that way, but there is too much nepotism in the NFL for that to happen.
Congratulations, you've accomplished the amazing feat of pointing out that there are outliers in most professions.

I'm confident that there have been some pretty shitty dentists over the years, but that doesn't mean I should trust an SNR-like poster to drill out my next cavity just because he talks a big hobby dentistry game on a message board.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:20 PM   #276
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Congratulations, you've accomplished the amazing feat of pointing out that there are outliers in most professions.

I'm confident that there have been some pretty shitty dentists over the years, but that doesn't mean I should trust an SNR-like poster to drill out my next cavity just because he talks a big hobby dentistry game on a message board.
What a horrible analogy.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:20 PM   #277
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Congratulations, you've accomplished the amazing feat of pointing out that there are outliers in most professions.

I'm confident that there have been some pretty shitty dentists over the years, but that doesn't mean I should trust an SNR-like poster to drill out my next cavity just because he talks a big hobby dentistry game on a message board.
Well, there is our first problem. You're using SNR as an example, and as I like SNR, he's not someone I would exactly refer too in my examples.


I would also say, wiht the advances and more uses of technology and information gathering, it's alot easier at this time to do these things.


Of course, in the end, they have the most and largest amount of information available that we just can't know, so they have an advantage there.

But I think there are a few on this board who have an eye for talent as well as some evaluators who do it for a living.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:27 PM   #278
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What a horrible analogy.
One of the worst I've ever seen on here and I've seen many
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Even then, Teicher/Mayock/Mel Kiper/the true fans everywhere would say that it would be too risky.

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What a horrible analogy.
Oh really? Why?

It had the advantage of using a concept with which my intended audience had some familiarity.
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Well, there is our first problem. You're using SNR as an example, and as I like SNR, he's not someone I would exactly refer too in my examples.


I would also say, wiht the advances and more uses of technology and information gathering, it's alot easier at this time to do these things.


Of course, in the end, they have the most and largest amount of information available that we just can't know, so they have an advantage there.

But I think there are a few on this board who have an eye for talent as well as some evaluators who do it for a living.
I like SNR too.
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