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Old 01-21-2014, 02:01 PM   #1
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A passrusher yes, but in our current scheme he'd be a situational player.

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I wouldn't spend too high of a pick on someone who's situational player in our present scheme. The guy has to be an every down player to justify it, if we switch and are confident that Hali and Houston can maintain the edge rush in the 4-3 then I'm all for it. It's a John Randle type of situation.
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I wouldn't spend too high of a pick on someone who's situational player in our present scheme. The guy has to be an every down player to justify it, if we switch and are confident that Hali and Houston can maintain the edge rush in the 4-3 then I'm all for it. It's a John Randle type of situation.
You're likely not going to find an every down starter at 23....at least for their 1st year. Maybe a WR....but he'd have to immediately buy into the offense.
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Old 01-21-2014, 02:13 PM   #4
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I wouldn't spend too high of a pick on someone who's situational player in our present scheme. The guy has to be an every down player to justify it, if we switch and are confident that Hali and Houston can maintain the edge rush in the 4-3 then I'm all for it. It's a John Randle type of situation.
You do realize that because of how often teams spread out the field and use personnel groupings that are pass friendly, sub packages are going to be more important than your base 3-4?


Guys who used to be 3rd down only players are quickly becoming 2 down players, whereas your 2 down, run-stuffing players are getting much more reduced roles (see Mike DeVito, Tyson Jackson, Akeem Jordan, Jovan Belcher).
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You do realize that because of how often teams spread out the field and use personnel groupings that are pass friendly, sub packages are going to be more important than your base 3-4?


Guys who used to be 3rd down only players are quickly becoming 2 down players, whereas your 2 down, run-stuffing players are getting much more reduced roles (see Mike DeVito, Tyson Jackson, Akeem Jordan, Jovan Belcher).
That's why I like Tuitt. He can play DE in our base 3-4....and you can kick him inside in sub packages.
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That's why I like Tuitt. He can play DE in our base 3-4....and you can kick him inside in sub packages.
Tuitt does not have the same kind of pass rush ability or explosion off of the snap.
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Tuitt does not have the same kind of pass rush ability or explosion off of the snap.
Please stop talking like you know what you're talking about.
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Please stop talking like you know what you're talking about.
Watch their game tapes, you may just see the same thing as everyone else sees.
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You do realize that because of how often teams spread out the field and use personnel groupings that are pass friendly, sub packages are going to be more important than your base 3-4?


Guys who used to be 3rd down only players are quickly becoming 2 down players, whereas your 2 down, run-stuffing players are getting much more reduced roles (see Mike DeVito, Tyson Jackson, Akeem Jordan, Jovan Belcher).
Yes, and if you need him to be fit into a sub package then the idea is flawed especially, if they can exploit a size difference during a play flip/change in an audible. You are looking at boys like Tuitt who's an all-round terror for a 3-4 DL. I'd love Donald if we were in an 4-3 base though.
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