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Old 01-11-2013, 02:00 PM   #1
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Interesting take from Walter Football....

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I wrote earlier that this pick largely depended on what would happen with Scott Pioli. If Pioli were retained, he'd draft Star Lotulelei or Luke Joeckel and then use his second-round pick on Mike Glennon, whom he likes. If Pioli were fired, however, as the awesome @saveourchiefs movement was pushing for, the new general manager would almost have to take a franchise quarterback.

Well, it was the latter situation that occurred. Andy Reid was hired, while Pioli was axed. New regimes mean new quarterbacks, but whether that means Reid will spend this selection on a quarterback or sign his aging, scrambling signal-caller from Philadelphia remains to be seen. But if history is any indication, Reid will use this pick on Geno Smith.

Reid eschewed all the top free-agent quarterbacks when he took over as the Eagles' head coach, taking a mobile, Big East product with a good deep ball and upside instead. Well, Smith is a mobile, (former) Big East product with a good deep ball and upside. He fits perfectly into Reid's offense.

ESPN and other outlets will tell you that Smith nor any other signal-caller is worth taking No. 1 overall, but that could easily change. Remember two years ago when ESPN was mocking Da'Quan Bowers and Nick Fairley to the Panthers? Well, Cam Newton ballooned to the top, as will some other quarterback this year. It could be Smith, Tyler Wilson, Matt Barkley or Glennon. We'll see. Four months is a long time. If this doesn't happen, the Chiefs could always trade down.

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Old 01-11-2013, 02:05 PM   #2
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Walter Football's Most recent write-up of Smith:

1/12/13: Smith started out 2012 on fire. He was a dominant force before getting shut down against Texas Tech and Kansas State. Smith played better in November even though West Virginia was in a losing streak.

Smith has completed 71 percent of his passes this season for 4,205 yards, 42 touchdowns and six interceptions. He had one of the most prolific games in college football history by completing 45-of-51 for 656 yards, eight touchdowns and zero interceptions against Baylor.

The senior signal-caller has an excellent skill set. He is showing his intelligence and field vision by working through his progressions and looking off safeties. Smith has some natural accuracy with good arm strength to make all the throws. He can fire some fastballs into tight windows with phenomenal ball placement to hit receivers in stride.

Smith's plus mobility allows him to pick up first downs with his feet and bail out his offensive line. He needs to work on sustaining drives as he struggled when Texas Tech and Kansas State took away the deep part of the field. Smith will need to improve his footwork for the NFL. He needs to become more uniform with good feet to get in rhythm.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:05 PM   #3
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:06 PM   #4
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If USC had Geno Smith....HOLY SHIT BATMAN
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:05 PM   #5
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Barkley:

1/12/13: Barkley had a rough senior season that has caused his stock to decline. He never had an elite physical skill set, but the decision-making problems are the most worrisome. In Barkley's defense, his offensive line was horrible. He was under heat all season as USC really missed Matt Kalil.

Barkley completed 64 percent of his passes for 3,273 yards, 36 touchdowns and 15 interceptions in 2012. The senior didn't play well against Stanford or Washington, and was just average against California. He had underwhelming games versus UCLA and Arizona, too. Barkley injured his shoulder against the Bruins and was unable to play against Notre Dame or Georgia Tech.

8/16/12: Barkley proved himself to be a safe prospect during the 2011 season. He laid claim to the Trojans' starting quarterback position as a freshman and completed 59.9 percent of his passes for 2,735 yards and 15 touchdowns, but also threw 14 interceptions. In 12 games in 2010, the 6-foot-2, 220 pounder improved his production by completing 62.6 percent of his passes for 2,791 yards with 26 touchdowns and 12 interceptions.

Barkley had many prolific passing games as a junior in 2011, including throwing for six touchdown passes against UCLA and Colorado. He also led USC to a signature road win over Oregon. Barkley completed 69 percent of his passes for 3,528 yards with 39 touchdowns and only seven interceptions.

The senior's improved decision making is exactly the kind of progress NFL scouts will be pleased to see, plus he comes from a pro-style offense and has good intangibles. Barkley has mastered the West Coast offense and is well-prepared for the NFL.
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They haven't updated Wilson's yet:

8/16/12: Wilson completed 63 percent of his passes in 2011 for 3,638 yards with 24 touchdowns and six interceptions. The 6-foot-3, 220-pounder has good field vision, a strong arm and accuracy. He played better as the year progressed.

Wilson has the look of an NFL quarterback. He stands tall in the pocket and reads defenses well. The decision making the junior displayed last season was very impressive.

Wilson has a strong arm and is an accurate passer. He demonstrated the ability to push the ball outside the numbers in 2011, moving the ball down the field with precision passes. Wilson also has nice mobility to buy time or pick up yards on the ground. With his size, arm and intellect, he will most likely be viewed as a possible safe pick to scouts.

Wilson played a little bit in 2010 as a backup to Ryan Mallett. Wilson completed 34-of-51 passes for 453 yards with four touchdowns and three interceptions.

The 2012 season figures to be a challenging year for Wilson even though he received good preparation for the pro game from Bobby Petrino. Petrino has been fired and the Arkansas program is in turmoil. To make things harder, Wilson lost a bunch of good receivers.
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He needs to work on sustaining drives as he struggled when Texas Tech and Kansas State took away the deep part of the field.
While I agree with this assessment, you have to take into consideration that Geno was playing from behind a LOT of time due to the terrible defense. He relied on the deep ball to get his team back into games quickly. TTech and Kstate game planned against this and that is why they got stomped.

Also, with Charles in the backfield and a good Chiefs running game, defenses are going to have to prepare for the run. Either Smith is going to eat up a defense with the deep pass, or Charles is in the run game. There will be no more stacking of the box.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:20 PM   #8
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Yeah USC is so ****ing talented they can plug anybody in and still kick ass:
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=323660059
14/37
107 yards
1 TD
3 INT

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=323290030
14/28
186 yards
1 TD
2 INT

USC went from scoring 39.7 to 10 a game without Barkley.
Passing yards went from 327.3 per game to 146.5.

But its all about the WRs that USC has. Any QB can step in and be a superstar.
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Yeah USC is so ****ing talented they can plug anybody in and still kick ass:
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=323660059
14/37
107 yards
1 TD
3 INT

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=323290030
14/28
186 yards
1 TD
2 INT

USC went from scoring 39.7 to 10 a game without Barkley.
Passing yards went from 327.3 per game to 146.5.

But its all about the WRs that USC has. Any QB can step in and be a superstar.

Sure, Barkley has had 4 years. The kid that stepped in for him had 4 minutes.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:28 PM   #10
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Sure, Barkley has had 4 years. The kid that stepped in for him had 4 minutes.
But your dumbass said anybody can step in and be a stud at USC. Apparently that isn't the case ****head.
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But your dumbass said anybody can step in and be a stud at USC. Apparently that isn't the case ****head.
Real Mature. You can keep using google for you Barkley stats and what not while the rest of us have an adult conversation. You take things so personal. Relax. In case you forgot we are on the same team here. But whatever makes you feel better about pissing on your balls
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Real Mature. You can keep using google for you Barkley stats and what not while the rest of us have an adult conversation. You take things so personal. Relax. In case you forgot we are on the same team here. But whatever makes you feel better about pissing on your balls
Bitter. You are an idiot. Don't say stupid shit and when its backed up by facts cry like a little girl.
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Real Mature. You can keep using google for you Barkley stats and what not while the rest of us have an adult conversation. You take things so personal. Relax. In case you forgot we are on the same team here. But whatever makes you feel better about pissing on your balls
You could also make an argument that you could stick any QB in an Air Raid offense, and he's going to put up scary numbers:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...942/seth-doege

Very, very similar to Geno's numbers, and no Tayvon Austin.

Evaluating college QBs is tough. No one thinks Doege is a legit prospect, despite having nearly the same stats as Smith.
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