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Old 04-02-2015, 07:23 AM   #1
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Old 04-02-2015, 08:53 AM   #2
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and I'd like to show everyone the botched snap, too:



First off, this happened with 1:20 left on the clock and would have put Dallas up 23-21.

Are we to say that the Dallas defense would have stopped Matt Hasselbeck (prime Matt Hasselbeck who went on to the Super Bowl) from picking up 45-50 yards and then winning the game themselves on a field goal? That's the hilarious thing to me.

Now, should Parcells have had his PRO BOWL QB (who saved the season for Dallas, by the way) HOLDING FIELD GOALS when he had EVERYTHING ELSE to worry about? I mean, how is this good coaching.

AND LASTLY, TONY ROMO WAS ALMOST A HERO FOR BOTCHING THAT SNAP. YOU KNOW WHO THE REAL BEAST ON THAT PLAY WAS?! THE DEFENDER WHO TRIPPED ROMO UP FROM WHAT I IMAGINE ROMO THOUGHT WAS A SURE TD.

AT LEAST ROMO HAD THE WHEREWITHAL TO PICK UP THE BOTCHED SNAP, NOT FREAK OUT, AND THEN GET INTO THE END ZONE ... A DEFENDER DOVE AT HIM AND SAVED THE GAME FOR SEATTLE.

But again, this is not a choke job. This is bad coaching. And Romo STILL almost bailed them out.

...and let's not forget, even if Dallas went up 23-21 there with 1:15 left. They still only had about a 65% chance to win.

...but everyone wants to paint a convenient narrative

it's embarrassing
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Old 04-02-2015, 11:34 AM   #3
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...but everyone wants to paint a convenient narrative

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Old 04-02-2015, 09:20 AM   #4
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Wow, apparently Romo's choking broke Hootie.
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Old 04-02-2015, 09:25 AM   #5
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Wow, apparently Romo's choking broke Hootie.
I'm not dumb enough to BLINDLY reference a playoff game from 2007 and then try and highlight it as if Romo had the biggest choke job ever.

I don't know how old you are (I assume around 20), but I watched that game with great anticipation and it's hilarious to me that you tried to 'pwn' me by bringing that up as a Romo choke.

That was probably the best game I've ever seen Tony Romo play. The numbers don't show it ... but he almost SINGLE-HANDEDLY beat the 'soon to be' champions who made Tom Brady their bitch (18-1) in that Super Bowl.

But really good point, per usual, man!
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Old 04-02-2015, 09:22 AM   #6
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you should download the Cowherd podcast today ...

he was just arguing with a caller about Russell Wilson

said Russell Wilson is a FANASTIC QB ... a QB like no one we've ever seen ... and that Seattle wins BECAUSE of Russell Wilson

but I'm sure you're smarter than Colin Cowherd
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Old 04-02-2015, 09:30 AM   #7
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you should download the Cowherd podcast today ...

he was just arguing with a caller about Russell Wilson

said Russell Wilson is a FANASTIC QB ... a QB like no one we've ever seen ... and that Seattle wins BECAUSE of Russell Wilson

but I'm sure you're smarter than Colin Cowherd
You're going to hitch your wagon to Cowherd?

That's about as bad an 'appeal to authority' argument I've ever seen. Cowherd's an opinionated talking head that will forcefully make his stance known - that doesn't mean he has any better insight than many here have. He's never worked in football and as far as I know he never played it past high school. He watches football, the same as we do. I'm not sure why I'm supposed to defer to his judgment on anything.
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Old 04-02-2015, 09:54 AM   #8
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Listen to his show. He's FANTASTIC. I almost never disagree with any of his opinions. Plus, he loves Romo and Wilson.
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Old 04-02-2015, 10:27 AM   #9
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Listen to his show. He's FANTASTIC. I almost never disagree with any of his opinions. Plus, he loves Romo and Wilson.
I always listen to him on my drive in whenever baseball is in a bit of a down period (outside of the hot stove; mid-summer doldrums, etc...), otherwise it's MLB network.

He's opinionated and fairly well spoken. He's not unlike a lot of people I come across daily that can simply state things with enough conviction that you think they come from a place of great knowledge (frankly, I'm actually pretty damn good at that).

That's all well and good, but Cowherd doesn't come from that place. He's just a spectacular salesman. He's ambitious, he's aggressive - he's perfect for talk radio but he's also not someone who I'm going to immediately substitute his judgment for my own because what does being charismatic have to do with being knowledgeable? The guy has no particular bit of knowledge or expertise that makes him more capable of evaluating QBs than I am. He just has a microphone.

You're welcome to back him as someone you routinely agree with, but to say "I'm sure you're smarter than Colin Cowherd" as though the rest of us are supposed to march in lock-step with a particularly good snake-oil salesman is just ridiculous. It's made more obvious why you'd make the argument when you cite the fact that you always agree with him; of course you think he's smart, he thinks the same things you do. It's like liberals that call Limbaugh an idiots or conservatives that call Olberman one. Nope - those are very smart guys that happen to live in their own respective echo-chambers.

Cowherd's a guy that lives in your echo chamber. That doesn't make him smart, it doesn't make him dumb. In no way does that mean I'm going to defer to him on anything.
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I always listen to him on my drive in whenever baseball is in a bit of a down period (outside of the hot stove; mid-summer doldrums, etc...), otherwise it's MLB network.

He's opinionated and fairly well spoken. He's not unlike a lot of people I come across daily that can simply state things with enough conviction that you think they come from a place of great knowledge (frankly, I'm actually pretty damn good at that).

That's all well and good, but Cowherd doesn't come from that place. He's just a spectacular salesman. He's ambitious, he's aggressive - he's perfect for talk radio but he's also not someone who I'm going to immediately substitute his judgment for my own because what does being charismatic have to do with being knowledgeable? The guy has no particular bit of knowledge or expertise that makes him more capable of evaluating QBs than I am. He just has a microphone.

You're welcome to back him as someone you routinely agree with, but to say "I'm sure you're smarter than Colin Cowherd" as though the rest of us are supposed to march in lock-step with a particularly good snake-oil salesman is just ridiculous. It's made more obvious why you'd make the argument when you cite the fact that you always agree with him; of course you think he's smart, he thinks the same things you do. It's like liberals that call Limbaugh an idiots or conservatives that call Olberman one. Nope - those are very smart guys that happen to live in their own respective echo-chambers.

Cowherd's a guy that lives in your echo chamber. That doesn't make him smart, it doesn't make him dumb. In no way does that mean I'm going to defer to him on anything.
I don't disagree with anything you say, man. You're one of my favorite posters on this board.

BUT

You want to know what GoChargers refers to Russell Wilson as? Russell Dilfer.

Russell Wilson had a 91 QBR for the game in the Super Bowl. Tom Brady had an 82.

They were both fantastic.

Yet he wants to parade around here and act like Russell blew the game. It's either trolling or idiocracy. I lean towards idiocracy with him.
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You want to know what GoChargers refers to Russell Wilson as? Russell Dilfer.

Russell Wilson had a 91 QBR for the game in the Super Bowl. Tom Brady had an 82.

They were both fantastic.

Yet he wants to parade around here and act like Russell blew the game. It's either trolling or idiocracy. I lean towards idiocracy with him.
First of all, "idiocracy" isn't a word. You might want to brush up on the English language before trying to insult others' intelligence. You might be thinking of "idiocy," which is the perfect description of your takes.

Second of all, I don't have to "act" like Wilson blew the Super Bowl, because he actually did. He was terrible for half the game. He was 3-8 with a 5.1 QBR in the fourth quarter. He threw the biggest choke interception in the history of the Super Bowl. There's zero argument to be made that he didn't blow the game. In fact, the last time you tried to drag me into this debate, you were so thoroughly owned that you threw a tantrum and decided you were "done talking about the Super Bowl."
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First of all, "idiocracy" isn't a word. You might want to brush up on the English language before trying to insult others' intelligence. You might be thinking of "idiocy," which is the perfect description of your takes.
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