Chiefs Hypothetical: Should we trade Thigpen? - Page 3

**notorious** · 11-14-2008, 09:31 PM

Should we Trade our beloved Thiggy? If he keeps his play up he will be worth quite a bit on the market. If we are offered something really enticing from another team, should we take it?

Anderson set the world on fire for Cleveland, only to struggle after teams got enough tape to plan for him (and his receivers started dropping balls, tougher competition, etc.)

Memories of Scott Mitchell dance in my head. The Pats are going to "Mitchell" Cassel come this off-season.

Could he be OUR Joe Montana/Tom Brady/Peyton Manning?!

Please do not take this as my opinion going one way or the other, I posted this because the subject will definately come up later in the season.

Discuss.

Hootie · 11-15-2008, 07:59 AM

Ideally Thigpen continues his stellar play, we draft another QB in round 3 or round 4, cut Huard and have rookie QB and Croyle battle it out for the backup job in 2009.

Another stellar draft in 2009 that doesn't feature a QB in the top 5 (assuming we draft in the top 5, I bet we end up 4-12 and draft 7th) and we can compete as soon as next year (assuming our offense maintains their current consistency and aggressiveness)...

Right now it's the defense, and the defense is a much easier fix than the offense...we're a Jared Allen away from being an average defense rather than a horrendous defense, a la last year.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-15-2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10

Assuming he continues to play well for the rest of the season, I would trade him for a low 1st rounder, like #1-#10 but thats it.

**notorious** · 11-15-2008, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

I don't know how logical it would be for us to pay two unproven rookies $30M+ guaranteed...Thigpen is a low risk, high reward kind of guy because he's signed through 2010 and makes the league minimum.

I agree with this 100%.

Cheap quality backup. But, if he ends up being The One, what would be better than getting a very young QB, actually developing him, and watch him gut our most hated rivals for the next 10 years?

I am hoping for the slim chance that we fell into a QB that our rivals will despise, ala Horseface.

Hootie · 11-15-2008, 08:24 AM

like I said, the only reason KC fans aren't ready to anoint Tyler Thigpen is because he's Tyler Thigpen, 7th round project from Coastal Carolina...

If he was Tyler Thigpen, 1st round pick from BCS school, these past three starts would be enough for Chiefs fans to crown him four times over.

patteeu · 11-15-2008, 09:01 AM

My answer is pretty much "No". But...

If the offer was good enough (like a decent 1st round pick) AND if we had draft position to pick a guy in this draft that our personnel experts were convinced could be a franchise QB (Stafford?) then I'd be OK with a trade. Since this is almost certainly not the case though, I'm sticking with "No".

MTG#10 · 11-15-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Sorry, Im still not completely sold on him. I hope he proves me wrong though.

**Rausch** · 11-15-2008, 10:19 AM

He's dirt cheap, young, good attitude, and the perfect b/u QB for this team right now.

Trade Croyle for a 7th and some Arby's....

**DaFace** · 11-15-2008, 10:20 AM

No. (Should I bother reading the rest of this thread?)

**Rausch** · 11-15-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JuicesFlowing

We should draft a QB and let Thigpen play for the starting job if we draft a QB the first day.

Or, draft a QB, let Thigpen begin the season as the named starter and let the rookie come along slowly. If Thigpen gets hurt or sucks it up then we play the rookie under no pressure at all...

Brock · 11-15-2008, 10:24 AM

nuthooks

TEX · 11-15-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

The rising hype certainly brought thoughts of Derek Anderson into my head.

But I'm guessing we have Thigpen under contract for more than just this season. Let him play out the year and show us more next year, and if he deserves it then we can look at paying him accordingly.

Yep. No way I trade the best young QB prospect we have had in 20 years. Thiggy has played better than Croyle ever did. He's shown the ability to bounce back from bad outings proving that he can learn and is mentally tough. He deserves a shot.

I'd continue to build through the draft and concentrate on other positions and look for a proven back-up QB next season. Just my take.

TEX · 11-15-2008, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

like I said, the only reason KC fans aren't ready to anoint Tyler Thigpen is because he's Tyler Thigpen, 7th round project from Coastal Carolina...

If he was Tyler Thigpen, 1st round pick from BCS school, these past three starts would be enough for Chiefs fans to crown him four times over.

You nailed it!

StcChief · 11-15-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I think several people around here want to start younger players. Maybe ditch Thigpen and get someone who's 20 instead of 23.

again. Rainman nails the collective intelligence of CP.

chiefsngop · 11-15-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

Sounds like the Royals plan for success for the better part of the last decade. Get lucky on a guy then trade him.

Hell no, we shouldn't trade him, worse case scenario he's a good backup. Best case scenario, he's a quality starter.

Joe Montana, brady, manning never.

Spot on.

Even if Thiggy doesn't turn out to be the QBOTF, he is starting to prove he could, at the least, be a quality backup.

We're not going to be able to draft 2 quality QB's with no bust potential. And this team needs far too much to use 2 picks on the one position anyway.

Keep Thigpen and keep workin like hell to develop him, then draft a solid QB, or trade for one, or sign a free agent solid QB. This provides for actual competition in camp and preseason, and also provides depth at the QB position.

Rather it be at QB, RB, etc. , the Chiefs have to stay the course of getting away from just one injury having the ability to ruin a season.

chiefsngop · 11-15-2008, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Yep. No way I trade the best young QB prospect we have had in 20 years. Thiggy has played better than Croyle ever did. He's shown the ability to bounce back from bad outings proving that he can learn and is mentally tough. He deserves a shot.

I'd continue to build through the draft and concentrate on other positions and look for a proven back-up QB next season. Just my take.

I totally agree with your first paragraph, but disagree with the second.

If Thigpen does turn out to be the QBOTF, you have to take into account the possibility of him getting hurt or turning into a bust later. We Gotta have a real backup for him.

And if we are a real contender in 2 seasons, whoever is backing up Thigpen needs to have been in our system for at least one season prior. That way, if we really are contending, and Thiggy goes down, we can still chase playoff wins or bigger with the 2nd string guy coming in.

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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Ideally Thigpen continues his stellar play, we draft another QB in round 3 or round 4, cut Huard and have rookie QB and Croyle battle it out for the backup job in 2009. Another stellar draft in 2009 that doesn't feature a QB in the top 5 (assuming we draft in the top 5, I bet we end up 4-12 and draft 7th) and we can compete as soon as next year (assuming our offense maintains their current consistency and aggressiveness)... Right now it's the defense, and the defense is a much easier fix than the offense...we're a Jared Allen away from being an average defense rather than a horrendous defense, a la last year.
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	like I said, the only reason KC fans aren't ready to anoint Tyler Thigpen is because he's Tyler Thigpen, 7th round project from Coastal Carolina... If he was Tyler Thigpen, 1st round pick from BCS school, these past three starts would be enough for Chiefs fans to crown him four times over.
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