Royals Guillen's antics -- Your take on them

Silock · 07-06-2008, 06:17 AM

At first, I was willing to chalk it up to a guy disappointed with not winning. Now I just think he's a douchebag. He knew what he was signing up for when he signed with the Royals. Why be pissed about it all the time? **** him.

KC_Connection · 07-06-2008, 07:24 AM

He's been a lunatic his entire career, why stop being one in KC of all places?

Deberg_1990 · 07-06-2008, 08:03 AM

I dont have a problem with it as long as he keeps putting up the numbers.

The Royals have needed a guy like this for years. IM glad he doesnt just accept losing.

Chief Chief · 07-06-2008, 08:35 AM

Guillen went off on a tirade with the media about a month ago which stirred up things in a good way with the Royals soon thereafter winning 12 straight. Maybe he thinks that always being pissed off at his teammates/coaches will always result in victories. According to Splittorf's post-game comments last night, none of his teammates wanted to be near him at the batting cage before the game and Guillen didn't speak to any of them there either. I think it's great that he has a passion for the game with a strong desire to win, but someone's got to inject a good dose of reality into his head and clearly explain how his behavior is undermining the success and positive stuff the team's established so far. Guillen will get better results by being more accepting and supportive of his teammates and situation rather than displaying childish antics of throwing things and yelling. I'm hoping he'll show that over the next 7 weeks or the club just may have to offer him up for trade to a contending team. But maybe that's exactly what Guillen wants to happen...

**Bowser** · 07-06-2008, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I dont have a problem with it as long as he keeps putting up the numbers.

The Royals have needed a guy like this for years. IM glad he doesnt just accept losing.

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Originally Posted by Chief Chief

Guillen went off on a tirade with the media about a month ago which stirred up things in a good way with the Royals soon thereafter winning 12 straight. Maybe he thinks that always being pissed off at his teammates/coaches will always result in victories. According to Splittorf's post-game comments last night, none of his teammates wanted to be near him at the batting cage before the game and Guillen didn't speak to any of them there either. I think it's great that he has a passion for the game with a strong desire to win, but someone's got to inject a good dose of reality into his head and clearly explain how his behavior is undermining the success and positive stuff the team's established so far. Guillen will get better results by being more accepting and supportive of his teammates and situation rather than displaying childish antics of throwing things and yelling. I'm hoping he'll show that over the next 7 weeks or the club just may have to offer him up for trade to a contending team. But maybe that's exactly what Guillen wants to happen...

Agree with both of these.

Deberg_1990 · 07-06-2008, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Chief

Guillen will get better results by being more accepting and supportive of his teammates and situation rather than displaying childish antics of throwing things and yelling.

Guess we should have just kept Sweeney then.

**Bowser** · 07-06-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Guess we should have just kept Sweeney then.

I bet Guillen would choose Tequilla over milk and cookies.

Hound333 · 07-06-2008, 08:45 AM

While I don't 100% agree with how he goes about it, I like that we have a player here now that doesn't appear to be a "I'm just here to pick up a check" type player. I would rather have people who want to win, and bad.

KCUnited · 07-06-2008, 09:04 AM

I'm not sure this was a "I'm sick of not winning" rant. The Star reported this morning that he was being loud, knocked over a chair and McClure told him to quiet down and Guillen got in his face and it nearly came to blows. I'm a Guillen fan, but that sounds like destuctive club house behavior. I'll reserve judgement until more of the story comes out, if it comes out at all.

wutamess · 07-06-2008, 09:09 AM

I'm all for it. About damn time someone is willing to buck the system that hasn't worked for almost 20 years. Maybe some of the Royals players will get off of their asses and maybe this will light a fire under them.

I'm sick of every year being the "contending" year for the Royals. How many "rebuilding" years can you have out of 20 years? I seem to remember a bunch of CP'ers saying that Brett or McCrae or Wilson or White would've layed into someone's ass by now (and that was 3-4 years ago). Why go after Guillen for doing it? Now we're left with the total pussification of the Royals.

Fugg the PCness. Play some fuggin ball and get down, dirty and passionate while doing it.

Give'm hell Guillen... GIVE'M HELL!

Silock · 07-06-2008, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess

I'm all for it. About damn time someone is willing to buck the system that hasn't worked for almost 20 years. Maybe some of the Royals players will get off of their asses and maybe this will light a fire under them.

I'm sick of every year being the "contending" year for the Royals. How many "rebuilding" years can you have out of 20 years? I seem to remember a bunch of CP'ers saying that Brett or McCrae or Wilson or White would've layed into someone's ass by now (and that was 3-4 years ago). Why go after Guillen for doing it? Now we're left with the total pussification of the Royals.

Fugg the PCness. Play some fuggin ball and get down, dirty and passionate while doing it.

Give'm hell Guillen... GIVE'M HELL!

IMO, you don't have to be an abrasive loudmouth to be a leader and inspire your teammates to win. There are countless examples of this in all team sports.

Deberg_1990 · 07-06-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock

IMO, you don't have to be an abrasive loudmouth to be a leader and inspire your teammates to win. There are countless examples of this in all team sports.

True, but we are talking about an organization who havent made the playoffs in 23 years.

It would be different if they had even an ounce of success. This team needs some sort of enema.

wutamess · 07-06-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock

IMO, you don't have to be an abrasive loudmouth to be a leader and inspire your teammates to win. There are countless examples of this in all team sports.

Sweeney?

eazyb81 · 07-06-2008, 10:24 AM

I'd love to have 8 more players like him. We need more guys that put up big numbers rather than nice guys like Buck and Gload who suck balls.

I'm actually shocked that any real Royals fan would be disappointed in Guillen. He's probably our best offensive free agent in a decade, but fans are angry because he doesn't give nice flowery quotes about the 2nd worst team in the AL?

Silock · 07-06-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

He's probably our best offensive free agent in a decade, but fans are angry because he doesn't give nice flowery quotes about the 2nd worst team in the AL?

I'm pissed about the altercation with the pitching coach, not what he said in the media. What he said NEEDED to be said.

I can't say that nearly coming to blows with the pitching coach is needed at ALL.

07-06-2008, 06:17 AM
Silock MVP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10020882	Guillen's antics -- Your take on them At first, I was willing to chalk it up to a guy disappointed with not winning. Now I just think he's a douchebag. He knew what he was signing up for when he signed with the Royals. Why be pissed about it all the time? **** him.
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07-06-2008, 07:24 AM	#2
KC_Connection Perpetual Mediocrity Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $5372783	He's been a lunatic his entire career, why stop being one in KC of all places?
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07-06-2008, 08:03 AM	#3
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	I dont have a problem with it as long as he keeps putting up the numbers. The Royals have needed a guy like this for years. IM glad he doesnt just accept losing. __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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07-06-2008, 08:35 AM	#4
Chief Chief Veteran Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City MO Casino cash: $10004900	Guillen went off on a tirade with the media about a month ago which stirred up things in a good way with the Royals soon thereafter winning 12 straight. Maybe he thinks that always being pissed off at his teammates/coaches will always result in victories. According to Splittorf's post-game comments last night, none of his teammates wanted to be near him at the batting cage before the game and Guillen didn't speak to any of them there either. I think it's great that he has a passion for the game with a strong desire to win, but someone's got to inject a good dose of reality into his head and clearly explain how his behavior is undermining the success and positive stuff the team's established so far. Guillen will get better results by being more accepting and supportive of his teammates and situation rather than displaying childish antics of throwing things and yelling. I'm hoping he'll show that over the next 7 weeks or the club just may have to offer him up for trade to a contending team. But maybe that's exactly what Guillen wants to happen...
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07-06-2008, 08:45 AM	#8
Hound333 Starter Join Date: Jul 2006 Casino cash: $7295392	While I don't 100% agree with how he goes about it, I like that we have a player here now that doesn't appear to be a "I'm just here to pick up a check" type player. I would rather have people who want to win, and bad.
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07-06-2008, 09:04 AM	#9
KCUnited Cheat Death Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Land of Drincoln Casino cash: $2288244	I'm not sure this was a "I'm sick of not winning" rant. The Star reported this morning that he was being loud, knocked over a chair and McClure told him to quiet down and Guillen got in his face and it nearly came to blows. I'm a Guillen fan, but that sounds like destuctive club house behavior. I'll reserve judgement until more of the story comes out, if it comes out at all.
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07-06-2008, 09:09 AM	#10
wutamess MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Lee's Summit Casino cash: $5381637	I'm all for it. About damn time someone is willing to buck the system that hasn't worked for almost 20 years. Maybe some of the Royals players will get off of their asses and maybe this will light a fire under them. I'm sick of every year being the "contending" year for the Royals. How many "rebuilding" years can you have out of 20 years? I seem to remember a bunch of CP'ers saying that Brett or McCrae or Wilson or White would've layed into someone's ass by now (and that was 3-4 years ago). Why go after Guillen for doing it? Now we're left with the total pussification of the Royals. Fugg the PCness. Play some fuggin ball and get down, dirty and passionate while doing it. Give'm hell Guillen... GIVE'M HELL!
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07-06-2008, 10:24 AM	#14
eazyb81 The Illuminati Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: the road less traveled Casino cash: $10004900	I'd love to have 8 more players like him. We need more guys that put up big numbers rather than nice guys like Buck and Gload who suck balls. I'm actually shocked that any real Royals fan would be disappointed in Guillen. He's probably our best offensive free agent in a decade, but fans are angry because he doesn't give nice flowery quotes about the 2nd worst team in the AL?
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