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Coogs · 10-20-2006, 07:57 AM

I know a lot of you are not interested in this type of stuff, but I like college football as well as the NFL. What I like about this draft site is the analysis they give on each of the players. Here it is...

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

CupidStunt · 10-20-2006, 10:36 AM

Alan Branch is a beast. I was pimping him way before the stock rise and will be in April.

Get 'er done, Carl.

ct · 10-20-2006, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Bite your tongue. LT or DT in the 1st. DT or LT in the 2nd.

Amen Brutha!!

Mr. Laz · 10-20-2006, 11:33 AM

tackles is what we need ..... DT and OT

Edwards knows defense so he might as well use that knowledge to build a mighty defense.

free agents for offense
draft for defense

BigChiefFan · 10-20-2006, 11:34 AM

We still need a WR desperately. That said, LT would be my choice and Baker seems like a good fit.

**CosmicPal** · 10-20-2006, 11:37 AM

2007 Free Agent WR's

Drew Bennett, UFA, Tennessee Titans
Bennett might not be considered a special wide receiver in NFL circles, but the UCLA product has great size and good hands as a second receiving option. An uncanny connection with quarterback Billy Volek in 2004 helped Bennett to 1,247 receiving yards and 11 touchdowns. With the drafting of Vince Young, Volek won’t be playing much for the Titans in the near future, so Bennett could easily move on—to a team ready to compete in the present. Several teams could use Bennett to compliment a smaller and faster receiver, and if used properly, Bennett can put up strong numbers once again. To see Bennett back in Tennessee would be quite unexpected.

Kevin Curtis, UFA, St. Louis Rams
It is likely that Curtis hangs around St. Louis. He’s being used more and more in the offense and Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt are only getting older. If Curtis leaves the Rams, it will be because he doesn’t feel utilized enough and another team wants his services with a nice pay check offer. The Rams may just work an extension and save the trouble of Curtis looking around in the off season, but if Curtis does hit the market, he’ll make a solid second wide receiver for a team willing to use his speed in the right way

Other Free Agent Wide Receivers
Marc Boerigter, UFA, Green Bay Packers
David Boston, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Tyrone Calico, UFA, Tennessee Titans
Patrick Crayton, RFA, Dallas Cowboys
Andre' Davis, UFA, Buffalo Bills
Bobby Engram, UFA, Seattle Seahawks
Justin Gage, UFA, Chicago Bears
D.J. Hackett, RFA, Seattle Seahawks
Keenan McCardell, UFA, San Diego Chargers
Shaun McDonald, UFA, St. Louis Rams
Samie Parker, RFA, Kansas City Chiefs
Jerome Pathon, UFA, Atlanta Falcons
Willie Ponder, UFA, New York Giants
Edell Shepherd, RFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Travis Taylor, UFA, Minnesota Vikings
Scottie Vines, RFA, Detroit Lions
Bobby Wade, UFA, Tennessee Titans
Peter Warrick, UFA, Seattle Seahawks
Kelley Washington, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals
Alvis Whitted, UFA, Oakland Raiders
Ernest Wilford, RFA, Jacksonville Jaguars

**CosmicPal** · 10-20-2006, 11:39 AM

2007 Free Agent OL's

Max Starks RFA Pittsburgh Steelers
Starks is a starting tackle for a Super Bowl champion. That’s enough in itself to get some teams a little excited about the prospects of acquiring him. The fact that Starks is young, talented, and massive in stature—listed at 6’8”, 337 lbs.—just adds to the excitement pile. Another lineman that shouldn’t be going anywhere as the Steelers will not let Starks go without a fight. The best bet is that Starks will decide he wants to stay in Pittsburgh and sign an extension. If he hits the market, there will be a team or two willing to pay a big amount to entice the tackle to relocate.

Leonard Davis UFA Arizona Cardinals
Davis is a massive tackle that the Cardinals can’t afford to lose to free agency. The Arizona offensive line is already suspect, and losing Davis would be a huge step in the wrong direction, but the team may have to let him go and find a replacement if they aren’t prepared to offer decent money. Davis has shown the ability to simply be a wall of protection for his quarterback and while teams might not line up for the chance to sign him, anyone looking for a tackle will have him high on the list. The Cardinals are more than likely going to push to re-sign him before he hits the market.

Mike Gandy, UFA, Buffalo Bills
A relatively young starting left tackle, Gandy had been blocking for Willis McGahee over the past two seasons, and this season could go a long way in making Gandy an appealing free agent. He has talent, but isn’t considered among the league’s best linemen. However, a decent starting left tackle doesn’t just drop from the sky, so expect him to garner interest from a handful of teams, if Buffalo doesn’t re-sign him before the market opens.

Other Free Agent Offensive Linemen
Jordan Black, UFA, Kansas City Chiefs
Dwayne Carswell, UFA, Denver Broncos
Derrick Dockery, UFA, Washington Redskins
Nat Dorsey, RFA, Cleveland Browns
Chris Gray, UFA, Seattle Seahawks
Norm Katnik, RFA, New York Jets
Ryan Lilja, RFA, Indianapolis Colts
Sean Locklear, RFA, Seattle Seahawks
Vincent Manuwai, UFA, Jacksonville Jaguars
Roman Oben, UFA, San Diego Chargers
Brian Rimpf, RFA, Baltimore Ravens
Eric Steinbach, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals
Todd Steussie, UFA, St. Louis Rams
Floyd Womack, UFA, Seattle Seahawks

Mr. Laz · 10-20-2006, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicPal

2007 Free Agent WR's

man, that's an ugly looking list

**CosmicPal** · 10-20-2006, 11:40 AM

2007 Free Agent DL's

Dwight Freeney, UFA, Indianapolis Colts
Freeney originally signed for seven years in 2002, but having reached certain incentive levels in his contract has voided the final two seasons, making him a free agent at the end of this season. Freeney has posted double-digit sack totals in each of his four seasons, and has forced 23 fumbles in that time. He’s arguably the best defensive end in the league, and at worst is one of the top pass rushers around. He’s missed just one game in his career and plays with an incredible motor. With some of the best speed at his position, many teams will be lining up for a shot at a player that can apply pressure on the quarterback quite often.

Jared Allen, RFA, Kansas City Chiefs
The top defensive lineman that will see the market, Allen, has posted totals of 9 and 11 in the sack department over the past two seasons. The Chiefs will do everything in their power to keep him, but teams on the outside looking in could see Allen as a free agent must. He’s young, plays with a big motor, and puts pressure on the quarterback often, evidenced by his 7 forced fumbles last season. Teams will line up for the type of player that Allen is, and being an RFA doesn’t change that much. Allen makes the list because of his talent, but it’s difficult to imagine that the Chiefs would allow him to slip away on the market. Expect the Chiefs to negotiate a contract extension or possibly use the franchise tag if Allen has another great season.

Vonnie Holliday, UFA, Miami Dolphins
He’s been an effective defensive tackle throughout his career, and when Holliday hits the market, his experience, talent, and size will make him a desirable option for teams that need defensive interior run support. Miami won’t want to lose him, as they have a collection of veteran players who could help make a Super Bowl push in the next few seasons, but Holliday can command a decent dollar amount if he seeks a new employer. Don’t be surprised to see the Dolphins re-sign him before free agency.

Other Free Agent Defensive Lineman
Edward Jasper, UFA, Philadelphia Eagles
Chad Lavalais, RFA, Atlanta Falcons
Cory Redding, UFA, Detroit Lions
Terdell Sands, UFA, Oakland Raiders
Hollis Thomas, UFA, New Orleans Saints

**CosmicPal** · 10-20-2006, 11:41 AM

2007 Free Agent DB's

Nate Clements, UFA, Buffalo Bills
Clements should be the top target of teams looking for help in the secondary. He’s young, highly regarded, and very talented. Buffalo would like nothing more than to have him signed to an extension as quickly as possible, but his talent—he does have two Pro Bowl selections—may lead him to test the market. Without an extension, the Bills must decide if they are willing to franchise tag Clements once again to guarantee his presence on the gridiron for one more season. Since Clements has not been adversely affected by NFL officiating changes, most NFL teams will pursue the cornerback if he hits the market.

Other Free Agent Cornerbacks
Roc Alexander, RFA, Denver Broncos
Jordan Babineaux, RFA, Seattle Seahawks
Jason David, RFA, Indianapolis Colts
Randall Gay, RFA, New England Patriots
Nick Harper, UFA, Indianapolis Colts
David Macklin, UFA, Arizona Cardinals
Asante Samuel, UFA, New England Patriots

**CosmicPal** · 10-20-2006, 11:43 AM

Don't be surprised if we pick up a free agent QB in the offseason. We'll need someone other than Huard with some experience.

2007 Free Agent QB's

Matt Schaub, RFA, Atlanta Falcons
The free agent quarterback class is light in 2007, but teams in true need of a field general may be highly interested in Schaub. He has an NFL arm and has shown flashes of possibly being a legitimate quality starting quarterback. It is likely that just a handful of teams would aggressively pursue Schaub, but if someone is willing to pay decent money and forfeit a draft pick for Schaub, he could be lured away from his spot behind Michael Vick. In the end, Schaub’s chances of re-signing with the Falcons don’t look good, as Schaub will pursue a bigger role in another offense.

Chris Simms, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Simms is coming off a decent season in Tampa Bay in which he completed 61% of his passes, but the fast approaching 2006 season will go a long way in determining how welcome Simms will be in the Bucs’ locker room. Jon Gruden is well respected around the league, but he’s also not afraid to let you know if you’re in his doghouse. Simms will need to continue to complete passes if he wants to stay in Tampa Bay. Outsiders might find appeal in the quarterback, even with a poor season, if they think the growth potential is there. In the end, Simms will do just enough to warrant a contract offer from the Bucs, but he still could sign elsewhere if the money is right.

Other Free Agent Quarterbacks
Rohan Davey, RFA, Arizona Cardinals
Shaun King, UFA, Indianapolis Colts
John Navarre, RFA, Arizona Cardinals
Patrick Ramsey, UFA, New York Jets
Tim Rattay, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Seneca Wallace, UFA, Seattle Seahawks
Anthony Wright, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals

Chiefnj · 10-20-2006, 11:45 AM

Does anyone have a link to StatsInc's OL statistics where it shows sacks given up by linemen?

Thanks.

Coogs · 10-20-2006, 11:45 AM

Last season the Bears had one of the best Defenses in the NFL, and also one of the worst offenses. And look at their first 5 draft picks from last season...

1 Danieal Manning DB Abilene Christian
2 Devin Hester WR Miami (FL)
3 Dusty Dvoracek DT Oklahoma
4 Jamar Williams LB Arizona State
5 Mark Anderson DE Alabama

I would not be surprised to see us go heavy on defense as well, since Herm has said we need 3 more defenders to be a dominate defense.

Mr. Laz · 10-20-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicPal

Don't be surprised if we pick up a free agent QB in the offseason. We'll need someone other than Huard with some experience.

you think Trent isn't coming back??

Green,Huard,Croyle looks to be our QB rotation until Green leaves.

**CosmicPal** · 10-20-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

you think Trent isn't coming back??

My guess is as good as anyone's right now. I've heard he'll retire in a few weeks, I've heard he's coming back in a couple of weeks, I've heard so many conflicting stories it's hard to tell if and when he's coming back, if he's coming back at all.

Coogs · 10-20-2006, 11:51 AM

As far as the OT's on our team goes, and after reading the piece on Thomas from Wisconsin. Do we need to draft OT's that are better run blockers or pass blockers?

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10-20-2006, 10:36 AM	#31
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10-20-2006, 11:34 AM	#34
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10-20-2006, 11:37 AM	#35
CosmicPal Learn it. Know it. Live it. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Casino cash: $10004900	2007 Free Agent WR's Drew Bennett, UFA, Tennessee Titans Bennett might not be considered a special wide receiver in NFL circles, but the UCLA product has great size and good hands as a second receiving option. An uncanny connection with quarterback Billy Volek in 2004 helped Bennett to 1,247 receiving yards and 11 touchdowns. With the drafting of Vince Young, Volek won’t be playing much for the Titans in the near future, so Bennett could easily move on—to a team ready to compete in the present. Several teams could use Bennett to compliment a smaller and faster receiver, and if used properly, Bennett can put up strong numbers once again. To see Bennett back in Tennessee would be quite unexpected. Kevin Curtis, UFA, St. Louis Rams It is likely that Curtis hangs around St. Louis. He’s being used more and more in the offense and Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt are only getting older. If Curtis leaves the Rams, it will be because he doesn’t feel utilized enough and another team wants his services with a nice pay check offer. The Rams may just work an extension and save the trouble of Curtis looking around in the off season, but if Curtis does hit the market, he’ll make a solid second wide receiver for a team willing to use his speed in the right way Other Free Agent Wide Receivers Marc Boerigter, UFA, Green Bay Packers David Boston, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Tyrone Calico, UFA, Tennessee Titans Patrick Crayton, RFA, Dallas Cowboys Andre' Davis, UFA, Buffalo Bills Bobby Engram, UFA, Seattle Seahawks Justin Gage, UFA, Chicago Bears D.J. Hackett, RFA, Seattle Seahawks Keenan McCardell, UFA, San Diego Chargers Shaun McDonald, UFA, St. Louis Rams Samie Parker, RFA, Kansas City Chiefs Jerome Pathon, UFA, Atlanta Falcons Willie Ponder, UFA, New York Giants Edell Shepherd, RFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Travis Taylor, UFA, Minnesota Vikings Scottie Vines, RFA, Detroit Lions Bobby Wade, UFA, Tennessee Titans Peter Warrick, UFA, Seattle Seahawks Kelley Washington, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals Alvis Whitted, UFA, Oakland Raiders Ernest Wilford, RFA, Jacksonville Jaguars __________________ - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - Four blessings upon my fellow planeteers: Older whiskey, younger women, faster horses, and more money.
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10-20-2006, 11:39 AM	#36
CosmicPal Learn it. Know it. Live it. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Casino cash: $10004900	2007 Free Agent OL's Max Starks RFA Pittsburgh Steelers Starks is a starting tackle for a Super Bowl champion. That’s enough in itself to get some teams a little excited about the prospects of acquiring him. The fact that Starks is young, talented, and massive in stature—listed at 6’8”, 337 lbs.—just adds to the excitement pile. Another lineman that shouldn’t be going anywhere as the Steelers will not let Starks go without a fight. The best bet is that Starks will decide he wants to stay in Pittsburgh and sign an extension. If he hits the market, there will be a team or two willing to pay a big amount to entice the tackle to relocate. Leonard Davis UFA Arizona Cardinals Davis is a massive tackle that the Cardinals can’t afford to lose to free agency. The Arizona offensive line is already suspect, and losing Davis would be a huge step in the wrong direction, but the team may have to let him go and find a replacement if they aren’t prepared to offer decent money. Davis has shown the ability to simply be a wall of protection for his quarterback and while teams might not line up for the chance to sign him, anyone looking for a tackle will have him high on the list. The Cardinals are more than likely going to push to re-sign him before he hits the market. Mike Gandy, UFA, Buffalo Bills A relatively young starting left tackle, Gandy had been blocking for Willis McGahee over the past two seasons, and this season could go a long way in making Gandy an appealing free agent. He has talent, but isn’t considered among the league’s best linemen. However, a decent starting left tackle doesn’t just drop from the sky, so expect him to garner interest from a handful of teams, if Buffalo doesn’t re-sign him before the market opens. Other Free Agent Offensive Linemen Jordan Black, UFA, Kansas City Chiefs Dwayne Carswell, UFA, Denver Broncos Derrick Dockery, UFA, Washington Redskins Nat Dorsey, RFA, Cleveland Browns Chris Gray, UFA, Seattle Seahawks Norm Katnik, RFA, New York Jets Ryan Lilja, RFA, Indianapolis Colts Sean Locklear, RFA, Seattle Seahawks Vincent Manuwai, UFA, Jacksonville Jaguars Roman Oben, UFA, San Diego Chargers Brian Rimpf, RFA, Baltimore Ravens Eric Steinbach, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals Todd Steussie, UFA, St. Louis Rams Floyd Womack, UFA, Seattle Seahawks __________________ - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - Four blessings upon my fellow planeteers: Older whiskey, younger women, faster horses, and more money.
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10-20-2006, 11:40 AM	#38
CosmicPal Learn it. Know it. Live it. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Casino cash: $10004900	2007 Free Agent DL's Dwight Freeney, UFA, Indianapolis Colts Freeney originally signed for seven years in 2002, but having reached certain incentive levels in his contract has voided the final two seasons, making him a free agent at the end of this season. Freeney has posted double-digit sack totals in each of his four seasons, and has forced 23 fumbles in that time. He’s arguably the best defensive end in the league, and at worst is one of the top pass rushers around. He’s missed just one game in his career and plays with an incredible motor. With some of the best speed at his position, many teams will be lining up for a shot at a player that can apply pressure on the quarterback quite often. Jared Allen, RFA, Kansas City Chiefs The top defensive lineman that will see the market, Allen, has posted totals of 9 and 11 in the sack department over the past two seasons. The Chiefs will do everything in their power to keep him, but teams on the outside looking in could see Allen as a free agent must. He’s young, plays with a big motor, and puts pressure on the quarterback often, evidenced by his 7 forced fumbles last season. Teams will line up for the type of player that Allen is, and being an RFA doesn’t change that much. Allen makes the list because of his talent, but it’s difficult to imagine that the Chiefs would allow him to slip away on the market. Expect the Chiefs to negotiate a contract extension or possibly use the franchise tag if Allen has another great season. Vonnie Holliday, UFA, Miami Dolphins He’s been an effective defensive tackle throughout his career, and when Holliday hits the market, his experience, talent, and size will make him a desirable option for teams that need defensive interior run support. Miami won’t want to lose him, as they have a collection of veteran players who could help make a Super Bowl push in the next few seasons, but Holliday can command a decent dollar amount if he seeks a new employer. Don’t be surprised to see the Dolphins re-sign him before free agency. Other Free Agent Defensive Lineman Edward Jasper, UFA, Philadelphia Eagles Chad Lavalais, RFA, Atlanta Falcons Cory Redding, UFA, Detroit Lions Terdell Sands, UFA, Oakland Raiders Hollis Thomas, UFA, New Orleans Saints __________________ - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - Four blessings upon my fellow planeteers: Older whiskey, younger women, faster horses, and more money.
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10-20-2006, 11:41 AM	#39
CosmicPal Learn it. Know it. Live it. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Casino cash: $10004900	2007 Free Agent DB's Nate Clements, UFA, Buffalo Bills Clements should be the top target of teams looking for help in the secondary. He’s young, highly regarded, and very talented. Buffalo would like nothing more than to have him signed to an extension as quickly as possible, but his talent—he does have two Pro Bowl selections—may lead him to test the market. Without an extension, the Bills must decide if they are willing to franchise tag Clements once again to guarantee his presence on the gridiron for one more season. Since Clements has not been adversely affected by NFL officiating changes, most NFL teams will pursue the cornerback if he hits the market. Other Free Agent Cornerbacks Roc Alexander, RFA, Denver Broncos Jordan Babineaux, RFA, Seattle Seahawks Jason David, RFA, Indianapolis Colts Randall Gay, RFA, New England Patriots Nick Harper, UFA, Indianapolis Colts David Macklin, UFA, Arizona Cardinals Asante Samuel, UFA, New England Patriots __________________ - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - Four blessings upon my fellow planeteers: Older whiskey, younger women, faster horses, and more money.
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10-20-2006, 11:43 AM	#40
CosmicPal Learn it. Know it. Live it. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Casino cash: $10004900	Don't be surprised if we pick up a free agent QB in the offseason. We'll need someone other than Huard with some experience. 2007 Free Agent QB's Matt Schaub, RFA, Atlanta Falcons The free agent quarterback class is light in 2007, but teams in true need of a field general may be highly interested in Schaub. He has an NFL arm and has shown flashes of possibly being a legitimate quality starting quarterback. It is likely that just a handful of teams would aggressively pursue Schaub, but if someone is willing to pay decent money and forfeit a draft pick for Schaub, he could be lured away from his spot behind Michael Vick. In the end, Schaub’s chances of re-signing with the Falcons don’t look good, as Schaub will pursue a bigger role in another offense. Chris Simms, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Simms is coming off a decent season in Tampa Bay in which he completed 61% of his passes, but the fast approaching 2006 season will go a long way in determining how welcome Simms will be in the Bucs’ locker room. Jon Gruden is well respected around the league, but he’s also not afraid to let you know if you’re in his doghouse. Simms will need to continue to complete passes if he wants to stay in Tampa Bay. Outsiders might find appeal in the quarterback, even with a poor season, if they think the growth potential is there. In the end, Simms will do just enough to warrant a contract offer from the Bucs, but he still could sign elsewhere if the money is right. Other Free Agent Quarterbacks Rohan Davey, RFA, Arizona Cardinals Shaun King, UFA, Indianapolis Colts John Navarre, RFA, Arizona Cardinals Patrick Ramsey, UFA, New York Jets Tim Rattay, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Seneca Wallace, UFA, Seattle Seahawks Anthony Wright, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals __________________ - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - Four blessings upon my fellow planeteers: Older whiskey, younger women, faster horses, and more money.
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10-20-2006, 11:51 AM	#45
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $1584349	As far as the OT's on our team goes, and after reading the piece on Thomas from Wisconsin. Do we need to draft OT's that are better run blockers or pass blockers?
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