Chiefs If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. - Page 133

ShowtimeSBMVP · 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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**Mav** · 05-14-2013, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Funny that you would call someone else cult-like in his/her championing and defense of a QB.

Pot, kettle.

if you have noticed, i proudly wear the Alex Fan club moniker. i dont have a problem with him being the leader of the kaep fan club. i just like to point out while he is pointing and laughing at me, that hes doing the same thing. Its called Irony.

Im proudly in the Alex Smith Fan camp. For a while on the niners board, i Ran the ABA. Anybody but alex, which kaepernick was a proud member of. There is nothing wrong with having a favorite player.

he should support kaep. He loves him, he likes the way he plays. i dont make fun of him for it. its legit....

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-14-2013, 04:51 PM

This is how i felt when we got Alex Smith for Christmas

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-14-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

IIRC, he made the right call and threw the correct throw, it just wasn't a good throw.

Same here - it looked like 5 yards too much, way over the open receiver...

duncan_idaho · 05-14-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Look, I have a beautiful wife, a loving son, but my wife loves to gossip about her stuff at work. I come here, to talk football. people wanna bullshit, call some names, thats cool, call me an alex smith lover, all that shit, doesnt faze me. I dont want my personal life, nor lies told about me. Thats just the way I am. My true identity? Im snoop, and no one can take that from me, and I have backed alex smith since DAY ONE, and never waivered on him. Thats just the way it is. i believe that he will be successful here, but my idea of successful, is WAY different than most chiefs fans and I get that. they want their drew brees, eli, peyton, tom, aaron, i get that. Alex Smith is going to be successful because he lacks any ego, and puts the team first. Thats why i respect him. Thats why I like Kevin Durant, thats why I like Buster Posey, its just the way Im built. team first guys.

Your idea of successful is pretty mediocre then.

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-14-2013, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

he should support kaep. He loves him, he likes the way he plays. i dont make fun of him for it. its legit....

Do you seriously love the way Alex Smith plays QB? Seriously?

**Mav** · 05-14-2013, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

There is, in that situation you just throw a fade.

They let kaep throw a fade to randy moss against i believe the saints, and it was so horribly flat, thrown way too hard and out of bounds, that they didnt even attempt it anymore.

Ive never seen a more accurate thrower when he has to throw hard, but he lacks touch, and really struggles with short passes......he just needs work.

His arm is so incredible,, that he doesnt or didnt ever learn to throw short with touch and accuracy. just needs more throws.

O.city · 05-14-2013, 04:55 PM

The Chiefs aren't going to use the same blueprint as the 9ers, offensively. That is, if Andy Reids past is any indication, they aren't going to be a power run ball control offensive philosophical team. I'm a pretty firm believer that coaches don't change that much, if at all. Eventually, they are what they've always been.

IMO, thats why some here are upset about Smith. He was/is at his best the last 2 years when that has been the gameplan (Martyball, power game, whatever you want to call it).

We don't know what he will be in a pass first aerial offense like Reid will run. He seems to have the accuracy and decision making skillsets, but thats basically all we have to go on at this point.

**Mav** · 05-14-2013, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Your idea of successful is pretty mediocre then.

I suppose. 13-3 and 6-2-1 is pretty mediocre indeed.

**Ming the Merciless** · 05-14-2013, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Im snoop, and no one can take that from me

SAY WHA

O.city · 05-14-2013, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

They let kaep throw a fade to randy moss against i believe the saints, and it was so horribly flat, thrown way too hard and out of bounds, that they didnt even attempt it anymore.

Ive never seen a more accurate thrower when he has to throw hard, but he lacks touch, and really struggles with short passes......he just needs work.

His arm is so incredible,, that he doesnt or didnt ever learn to throw short with touch and accuracy. just needs more throws.

IIRC, which I'm not saying I do, that wasn't a fade, but a backshoulder throw.

duncan_idaho · 05-14-2013, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

I suppose. 13-3 and 6-2-1 is pretty mediocre indeed.

Yes, those records were about Alex Smith.

Go lick his sack somewhere else.

**Mav** · 05-14-2013, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Do you seriously love the way Alex Smith plays QB? Seriously?

I dont recall saying anything about how he plays qb. I think i mentioned things like no ego, meaning he has no problem checking to a run play, i think i mentioned hes a team first guy. I dont recall sayiing i love the way he plays qb.

no, i dont particularly care for the sacks he takes, his reluctance until his last 5 quarters as a starter for the niners to take any risks at all, i didnt like the way he couldnt see a wide open randy moss against the seahawks on monday night.

so no, there is a lot more that Alex smith needs to do before i love watching him play football.

Halfcan · 05-14-2013, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Isn't cover 0 just a fancy way of saying man-to-man coverage with everyone up front and no safeties in the backfield...? How could there not be a play for that in the redzone?

It is just more of his wild assumptions. The niners lost Not because Super kape choked but it was because the ravens d was so good and there really was just no hope at all to win. Oh and there was Not even a play that could be called to win the game-even though other QBs seem to pull out the win in the same exact situation. Hell I thought Most teams Practiced goal line situations-LOL But evidently the 9ers don't.

**Mav** · 05-14-2013, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Yes, those records were about Alex Smith.

Go lick his sack somewhere else.

missed the point completely did we? What part of team first, dont you get? what part of with alex at qb, the 49ers had the number one rushing attack in football? Hes no drew, aaron, eli, peyton, tom brady.

you missed all that huh?

O.city · 05-14-2013, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

I suppose. 13-3 and 6-2-1 is pretty mediocre indeed.

I enjoy your posts about Smith, I like to know more about our new QB.

But this is something you don't seem to be understanding. The Chiefs aren't going to be a ball control smash mouth team, philosophically speaking, like the 9ers.

If Reids history is any indication of the future, he's going to throw it about 35 times per game.

It's on Smith at this point. He's going to have to shoulder the load.

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2724064	The Chiefs aren't going to use the same blueprint as the 9ers, offensively. That is, if Andy Reids past is any indication, they aren't going to be a power run ball control offensive philosophical team. I'm a pretty firm believer that coaches don't change that much, if at all. Eventually, they are what they've always been. IMO, thats why some here are upset about Smith. He was/is at his best the last 2 years when that has been the gameplan (Martyball, power game, whatever you want to call it). We don't know what he will be in a pass first aerial offense like Reid will run. He seems to have the accuracy and decision making skillsets, but thats basically all we have to go on at this point.
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