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1. Raekwon McMillan, ILB, Ohio State (6'3" 243)

There is no question that the Chiefs need help at inside linebacker heading into 2017. I'm going out on a limb and saying that McMillan will declare for the draft after listening to some of his comments during bowl week. The difference between him staying and going really depends on how badly he wants a tree planted in his name after only garnering 2nd-team All-American honors this season (shameful really). McMillan is one of Ohio State's better players at a position they've had some all-time greats at, and that is not a small statement. This kid is the real deal. He can cover, shed blockers, blitz, hit like a truck, he can do it all. All that while being the unquestioned leader of the Buckeyes' defense, an outstanding student, and an outstanding community volunteer. McMillan could instantly fill the void left by Derrick Johnson, whom I believe will retire following a second Achilles rupture. If the Chiefs have to trade up to get this kid, I'm on board.

2. Hunter Dimick, DE, Utah (6'3" 266)

Dee Ford has stepped up way more than I thought he would in 2016. While his run defense needs to improve much more, he's come a long way since his rookie season when he was running away from the offense. It may be time I eat some crow on Ford, but he has work yet to do until I'm convinced he can carry this over for the long-haul. With Ford's emergence as a threat, pass rusher becomes a less pressing need. However, Hali may just hang them up after 2016, so a third pass rusher is definitely going to be needed. In the same breath, can KC afford to retain some players on defense in the coming years, including Ford? Dimick reminds me of Hali with decent speed, good strength, outstanding technique, and a motor that just doesn't shut down. Not to mention, he lead the PAC-12 with 13.5 sacks in 2016.

3. Chidobe Awuzie, CB, Colorado (5'11" 205)

Pick your reasons that Chiefs will likely need to add once again to the defensive backfield, which might include: the KeiVarae Russell debacle, Kenneth Acker not playing well, D.J. White showing a rookie learning curve, Phillip Gaines always being injured, or Steven Nelson looking lost 90% of the time. Awuzie reminds me alot of my guy from last season, D.J. White. He's not huge, but he's menacing in all facets. Sticky in coverage, great tackler, physical, can play special teams, blitzes well from the nickel, and can play the football well enough. This kid can line up anywhere in the defensive backfield. As much as KC runs the nickel, Awuzie might be a perfect addition.

4. Erik Magnuson, OT, Michigan (6'5" 305)

The Chiefs may be needing to free up some cap space and Jah Reid seems like a good candidate for the cut list. If that is the case, the Chiefs will need to go shopping for a backup right tackle/guard candidate. Magnuson has the athleticism and demeanor to stay out at tackle in the NFL, but must clean up some technique issues to be consistent in the NFL. Magnuson is one of the best pass blocking lineman in the Big Ten and is a solid run blocker to boot.

4. Nathan Peterman, QB, Pittsburgh (6'2" 225) (Projected Comp - Jeff Allen, OG)

With Rudolph deciding to stay in school, I really don't see the need for the Chiefs to jump on a QB overly early in the draft. That said, I'm putting Peterman back into my mock after a short-lived exit. Peterman checks alot of boxes in the Aaron Murray-type of mold having run a pro-style offense and having a good arm and solid mechanics, but perhaps better athleticism and a stronger arm. The Chiefs will likely need a 3rd QB going into 2017 if they don't retain Nick Foles, which doesn't seem likely given the cap restraints.

5. Jeremy Sprinkle, TE, Arkansas (6'5" 256)

The Chiefs have a fairly healthy stable of tight ends, especially receiving tight ends, but they lack a solid all-around tight end opposite Travis Kelce. Sprinkle is not only a reliable pass receiver and solid end-zone threat, but he's a very good blocker that can make contact on the move. He gets used at multiple spots in the Razorback offense, including in tight, split out, and at half-back, so he has some versatility as a blocker/receiver. Sprinkle doesn't have elite quickness and speed to threaten the seam as a number one tight end in the NFL, but he's got very respectable long speed to break away if given the opportunity.

5. De'Veon Smith, RB, Michigan (5'11" 228) (Projected Comp - Chase Daniel, QB)

The Chiefs very well may release or trade Jamaal Charles this offseason and the stable of RBs gets a bit light after Spencer Ware. Smith is a near clone of Ware in that he's a big, strong, powerful back that hits the hole hard and fast. Smith has good vision and is a one-cut-and-go type of back. Smith also catches the ball very well out of the backfield, which is a huge prerequisite in Andy Reid's offense.

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6. Treyvon Hester, DT, Toledo (6'3" 300) (Projected Comp - Donald Stephenson, OT)

Dontari Poe is set to hit free agency if he doesn't get a contract, and Jaye Howard will have 1 year left on his 2-year deal, plus there could be depth issues if the Chiefs don't retain Kendall Reyes. The Chiefs will need to continue the pipeline on the D-line. Hester is a good sized tackle with disruptive traits, especially a quick first step off the snap. Hester is routinely double and triple-teamed on the front line, so his stat lines don't look gaudy. Looks like a bit quicker version of Jaye Howard. Needs some work on maintaining his area discipline and play recognition, but his motor doesn't seem to stop. Plays with more of a defensive end mentality than a defensive tackle.

6. Isaac Asiata, OG, Utah (6'3" 323) (Projected Comp - Tyvon Branch, SS)

The Chiefs depth at OG, and even its starters, are a bit suspect. Asiata is a ball of energy on the offensive line with excellent foot speed and great bulk for the position. His abilit to pull and get into space is a huge upgrade to what Zach Fulton can offer. Asiata has played a bit of tackle and both guard spots in his four years with the Utes, giving him some flexibility as a rotational lineman at the onset. If Asiata can clean up his tendency to lean into blocks after engaging, he'll be a quality player on the interior. Asiata won the PAC-12's Morris Trophy as the top offensive lineman in the conference as voted by his peers on the defensive line.

7. Josh Augusta, DT, Missouri (6'4" 346)

The Chiefs may have a major issue if Poe leaves in free agency, but if he's retained the NT position becomes less of a concern. This is where a player like Augusta could be developed for the future. Augusta was beginning to look more like a baby mammoth than a football player, but finally seemed to get his weight under control in 2016, and his stat line benefited tremendously. The fact remains, his weight issues are going to scare teams off and push him down in the draft despite his solid play in 2016. If Augusta can maintain a sub-350 pound weight and continue to develop, he could be a force on the interior that commands double-teams.

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QB: A. Smith, T. Bray, N. Peterman
RB: S. Ware, C. West, D. Smith
FB: A. Sherman
WR: J. Maclin, C. Conley, T. Hill, D. Robinson, D. Thomas
TE: T. Kelce, R. Travis, J. Sprinkle, J. O'Shaughnessy
OL: E. Fisher, M. Schwartz, E. Magnuson
OG: L. Duvernay-Tardiff, P. Ehinger, I. Asiata
OC: M. Morse, Z. Fulton
DE: C. Jones, J. Howard, A. Bailey, R. Nunez-Roches, T. Hester
NT: D. Poe, J. Augusta
OLB: J. Houston, D. Ford, H. Dimick, D. Nicholas, F. Zombo
ILB: R. McMillan, J. Mauga, R. Wilson, D. Alexander, T. Smith, D. Johnson
CB: M. Peters, T. Mitchell, P. Gaines, S. Nelson, D. White, C. Awuzie, K. Acker
FS: R. Parker, E. Murray
SS: E. Berry, D. Sorensen
ST: C. Santos, D. Colquitt, J. Winchester

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Old 12-10-2016, 10:47 AM   #46
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A few things I think you should consider crow:

-a real #2 TE (Kelce injury insurance)
-a speedy ball hawk at S (Parker injury insurance)
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Old 12-10-2016, 10:49 AM   #47
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A few things I think you should consider crow:

-a real #2 TE (Kelce injury insurance)
-a speedy ball hawk at S (Parker injury insurance)
Which safety are you cutting?

And if you want all that you're basically saying the Chiefs must land 10 productive players from this draft...good luck.
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Old 12-10-2016, 11:05 AM   #48
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Which safety are you cutting?

And if you want all that you're basically saying the Chiefs must land 10 productive players from this draft...good luck.
Draft pick vs Ross Travis or James 'O'Shags
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Old 12-10-2016, 11:08 AM   #49
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Eric Murry was literally just drafted in the 4th round so unless you are picking one higher than that you likely aren't improving. Not to mention he is a CB to S conversion.
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Yeah but look at K. Russell or Ramik. Draft position means little if you aren't a high pick
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Old 12-10-2016, 02:47 PM   #51
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Utah's Tim Patrick is a better option than Pascal.
Actually made a switch to DeAngelo Yancey of Purdue. I've been meaning to change that Pascal pick for a while, but was looking for a guy I really liked.

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I know Dorsey/Reid like to draft a QB every year, but personally I would rather use the pick on someone who is more likely to stick on the roster unless we draft one high in the draft. Until we finally have the balls to grab a QBOTF in the 1st (or 2nd) I'd rather use our available resources on someone who could at the very least contribute on special teams. We've had enough of nobodies like Murray and Hogan.
Everyone wants a QBOTF. Thing is, this isn't a great draft to find that. I do really like Mason Rudolph as a 2nd round guy you sit for a couple years developing. But... You gotta have that third guy, camp/practice arm that holds a clip board. Chiefs will likely only have Bray going into 2017. If a worthwhile player isn't there early on, I think you have to draft a #3 guy.

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A few things I think you should consider crow:

-a real #2 TE (Kelce injury insurance)
-a speedy ball hawk at S (Parker injury insurance)
I think the Chiefs already have a really nice stable of TEs, and Ross Travis will have a year under his belt. I'd be hesitant to pull the trigger on a TE at all.

Nacua is probably the best ball hawk in the NCAA at safety. Problem is more with his run defense. Also seems to be the problem Parker had early on. Not only that, KC has guys that can play that role already with Murray and White. I don't see a Parker replacement as a huge necessity. I think you get worried about drafting a legit safety prospect if Eric Berry walks.
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Old 12-12-2016, 03:00 PM   #53
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People still think Cunningham will fall into the mid/late 20s?

Man, I figured the Jack and Jaylon love from last year (prior to their injuries) would've convinced folks that rangy ILBs are the rage right now, especially guys that can hold their own at the point of attack.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Cunningham go top 10. It's not a given, but it's definitely a possibility, especially if he tests well (and there's no reason he shouldn't). 2 down lineman like Ragland are falling farther than they would have in years past but the legit 3-down guys are likely to explode up draft boards and I don't see any reason not to believe that Cunningham isn't going to follow that path.

If he fell, I would consider taking him ahead of a QB. I'm just a little terrified about making the 'DJ v. Rodgers' decision again. I mean it shows just how much of a bummer that can be when the DJ pick worked out better than anyone could've realistically hoped and yet we STILL made the wrong choice there.
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Say we pick in the mid to late 20's. What would be the consensus if we took either Christian McCaffery or Dalvin Cook (as was suggested in another thread) over the names listed here? Would you be a fan or would you be pissed?
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]People still think Cunningham will fall into the mid/late 20s?[/B]

Man, I figured the Jack and Jaylon love from last year (prior to their injuries) would've convinced folks that rangy ILBs are the rage right now, especially guys that can hold their own at the point of attack.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Cunningham go top 10. It's not a given, but it's definitely a possibility, especially if he tests well (and there's no reason he shouldn't). 2 down lineman like Ragland are falling farther than they would have in years past but the legit 3-down guys are likely to explode up draft boards and I don't see any reason not to believe that Cunningham isn't going to follow that path.

If he fell, I would consider taking him ahead of a QB. I'm just a little terrified about making the 'DJ v. Rodgers' decision again. I mean it shows just how much of a bummer that can be when the DJ pick worked out better than anyone could've realistically hoped and yet we STILL made the wrong choice there.
Not a chance.

He's having a monster season and is head and shoulders above anyone at the position in the draft.

And if he did, which is not likely, I would take him in a New York minute.
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It will come down to how he works out in Indy. If he falls into the early 20's, the Chiefs would be stupid to not pick up the phone and start working on a trade up.
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People still think Cunningham will fall into the mid/late 20s?

Man, I figured the Jack and Jaylon love from last year (prior to their injuries) would've convinced folks that rangy ILBs are the rage right now, especially guys that can hold their own at the point of attack.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Cunningham go top 10. It's not a given, but it's definitely a possibility, especially if he tests well (and there's no reason he shouldn't). 2 down lineman like Ragland are falling farther than they would have in years past but the legit 3-down guys are likely to explode up draft boards and I don't see any reason not to believe that Cunningham isn't going to follow that path.

If he fell, I would consider taking him ahead of a QB. I'm just a little terrified about making the 'DJ v. Rodgers' decision again. I mean it shows just how much of a bummer that can be when the DJ pick worked out better than anyone could've realistically hoped and yet we STILL made the wrong choice there.
Because top 10 doesn't happen. Also because those that have went top 20 ran like CBs.

This rage has resulted in:

Darron Lee - 20th overall pick 2016
Shaq Thompson - 25th overall pick 2015
Ryan Shazier - 15th overall pick 2014 and one of the fastest LBs ever at a combine (4.38).


I'd venture to say that Cunningham runs at or slower than Thompson, who ran a 4.60. He's nowhere near Lee (4.47) or Shazier. I'd also think he finds a similar range to Thompson.
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People still think Cunningham will fall into the mid/late 20s?

Man, I figured the Jack and Jaylon love from last year (prior to their injuries) would've convinced folks that rangy ILBs are the rage right now, especially guys that can hold their own at the point of attack.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Cunningham go top 10. It's not a given, but it's definitely a possibility, especially if he tests well (and there's no reason he shouldn't). 2 down lineman like Ragland are falling farther than they would have in years past but the legit 3-down guys are likely to explode up draft boards and I don't see any reason not to believe that Cunningham isn't going to follow that path.

If he fell, I would consider taking him ahead of a QB. I'm just a little terrified about making the 'DJ v. Rodgers' decision again. I mean it shows just how much of a bummer that can be when the DJ pick worked out better than anyone could've realistically hoped and yet we STILL made the wrong choice there.
If Cunningham is in reach come draft day, you take him.

There is no "Rodgers" to be had in this draft unless you deplete all your assets to reach on a guy like Kizer or Trubisky whom I feel will both go top 10.
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Major update to my #1 pick and a couple others.
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Anyone have opinions on Rudolph, Lee, Yancey, and Augusta most specifically?

Made an update and forgot to talk about it.

I realllly like Marquel Lee for this defense though.
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