Chiefs Mike and Mike Talking about Geno going #1 overall - Page 7

Hoover · 03-15-2013, 07:48 AM

It was just a matter of time. Obviously the Chiefs don't need him

but they are helping create a market for a trade.

Apparently Jaws loves the kid.

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-15-2013, 09:40 AM

If someone wants Geno more than Jax, a trade will happen.

Simple.

DJ's left nut · 03-15-2013, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

So how soon do we know who we are trading down with...?

Or will we not find out till draft day?

If someone offers the RGIII haul, you'll hear about it within hours of the offer being made because I can't imagine we let that person off the phone without having every detail wrapped up and the trade executed.

If not, then you'll have a few teams playing chicken with each other and scheduling workouts with Geno. The Chiefs at that point would be wise to just let the process play out and see which team really falls in love with the guy.

Coaches are involved now and coaches are what really make shit happen. When it's just the scouts, they can look dispassionately at Geno and say "eh, good QB...not great". When Doug Marrone gets in the room, however, he may very well turn to his scouts, tell them to

and say "That's the guy I'm building my team around. Get Nix on the phone; we're making this happen".

Now is the time that the human element surfaces and strange things start to happen. That's why the Chiefs will get a good price for Geno if they want it.

**The Franchise** · 03-15-2013, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

If someone wants Geno more than Jax, a trade will happen.

Simple.

I think it's realistically going to come down between the Eagles and the Bills.

**ptlyon** · 03-15-2013, 09:41 AM

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Look....I'm not going to sit here and believe 100% that it's going to happen. I've already said that it has a 1-5% probability of happening. But I'm getting sick and tired of people that sit here and try feed me this bullshit that it has absolutely zero chance of happening.

I've lost track, of what happening?

Vietnam58 · 03-15-2013, 09:42 AM

its time to come to terms.......... we are not trading the number 1 pick or taking geno. .we are drafting a lineman. .either OT or DL . .

It sucks but its the reality. .

Chiefnj2 · 03-15-2013, 09:42 AM

QB's always get hyped and pimped as the draft approaches. Barkley is going to look good also and then there will be arguments over who should go first Barkley or Smith.

Tannehill got the treatment last year, Locker/Ponder the year before. It's a QB driven league and it's the sexy position to talk about.

I think it's funny that they wait until his pro day to decide to turn on the media machine. It's not like he was a different QB yesterday than he was at WVU. It's not like he had a weak arm in college.

**The Franchise** · 03-15-2013, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

I've lost track, of what happening?

Of the Chiefs drafting Geno Smith at 1.1.

DJ's left nut · 03-15-2013, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

So if someone is worth it, why wouldn't we take them again?

Because this isn't Madden. There isn't one great big draft board in the sky that determines what Geno is 'worth'.

There are 32 teams and 100s of people that are all assigning their own values to each player. Somebody is going to believe Geno is worth that pick and probably multiple somebodies. Moreoever, some guys like Nix or even the Cardinals may not think he's truly 'worth' the 1.1 but that they have no choice but to take him to energize the fanbase.

His worth is set by the market, not some idiot goombah with a slicked back haircut and an overblown reputation for draft prognosticating. And the market will absolutely support the Chiefs getting a couple of high picks for him, even if Andy doesn't think he's worth 1.1.

**ptlyon** · 03-15-2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Of the Chiefs drafting Geno Smith at 1.1.

Got ya. I think there is a better chance than you are saying. If he nailed it like they say, and andy was impressed with him at the combine as they say, I don't think he would pass him up. If they do, we have the wrong regime. Again.

Messier · 03-15-2013, 09:47 AM

This could be good news for the Chiefs no matter what happens. As the NFL experts always say, you only need one team to fall in love with a player. And if this causes Smith to jump up the Chiefs board to one, all the better. I think Reid and Dorsey will take a QB with any of their picks if they see him as the best available at that spot.

Chiefnj2 · 03-15-2013, 09:50 AM

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Got ya. I think there is a better chance than you are saying. If he nailed it like they say, and andy was impressed with him at the combine as they say, I don't think he would pass him up. If they do, we have the wrong regime. Again.

Wasn't Andy in Oregon?

I don't think they can get up and definitively say Alex Smith is the starter and then take a QB 1.1.

Dayze · 03-15-2013, 09:50 AM

take him anyway even if they don't want him, then see if anyone later in the draft wants to trade for him?

is that possible, or is that moranic?

**The Franchise** · 03-15-2013, 09:50 AM

This would be hilarious.

The Chiefs trade with the Eagles for their #4 pick. The Anti-Geno people scream from the rooftops that they knew what they were talking about. The Chiefs would never draft a QB in the 1st round.

Then the Chiefs take Matt Barkley at #4.

**ptlyon** · 03-15-2013, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Because this isn't Madden. There isn't one great big draft board in the sky that determines what Geno is 'worth'.

There are 32 teams and 100s of people that are all assigning their own values to each player. Somebody is going to believe Geno is worth that pick and probably multiple somebodies. Moreoever, some guys like Nix or even the Cardinals may not think he's truly 'worth' the 1.1 but that they have no choice but to take him to energize the fanbase.

His worth is set by the market, not some idiot goombah with a slicked back haircut and an overblown reputation for draft prognosticating. And the market will absolutely support the Chiefs getting a couple of high picks for him, even if Andy doesn't think he's worth 1.1.

Thanks for the detailed explanation, but I hope you are wrong.

**ptlyon** · 03-15-2013, 09:54 AM

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Wasn't Andy in Oregon?

I don't think they can get up and definitively say Alex Smith is the starter and then take a QB 1.1.

Sure they can. They can say he needs to develop, yada yada.

A. Smith won't be the starter come week 17 anyway.

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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7873688	QB's always get hyped and pimped as the draft approaches. Barkley is going to look good also and then there will be arguments over who should go first Barkley or Smith. Tannehill got the treatment last year, Locker/Ponder the year before. It's a QB driven league and it's the sexy position to talk about. I think it's funny that they wait until his pro day to decide to turn on the media machine. It's not like he was a different QB yesterday than he was at WVU. It's not like he had a weak arm in college. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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Messier MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $10005050	This could be good news for the Chiefs no matter what happens. As the NFL experts always say, you only need one team to fall in love with a player. And if this causes Smith to jump up the Chiefs board to one, all the better. I think Reid and Dorsey will take a QB with any of their picks if they see him as the best available at that spot.
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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $3105047	This would be hilarious. The Chiefs trade with the Eagles for their #4 pick. The Anti-Geno people scream from the rooftops that they knew what they were talking about. The Chiefs would never draft a QB in the 1st round. Then the Chiefs take Matt Barkley at #4.
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